Weapon Types - stave vs bow caster
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TL;DR
-give bows less spelldamage -let all hybrid weapons become a "rune" or a "war" version -give "rune"-staves a useful implicit and/or more spelldamage Long: I aim on the unbalanced bow casters, compared to 2h-Staves. Bows have access to a quiver and are easier to craft (+gemlvl). In addition its not natural to "cast" with a bow. There are still bow attacks that scale with low-dps bows. But things like blade vortex cast with a bow in your hands seems dump to me. An easy fix would be an simple "less spelldamage" mod on bows. This would have no effect on attacks, heralds, auras or guards spells. And to buff staves: Change "generic" staffs to "rune" staffs and give the "rune" version more useful implicits, like spelldamage / castspeed / energyshield / (crit is fine). Or even a more spelldamage boost (like 2h-attack-weapons have more DPS compared to 1H). In addition you can give all hybrid weapons a clear "war" or "rune" mod. (ATM generic daggers can not roll spells mods, while generic staves can -> dumb and confusing) I guess all of use would be happy with a "war" and a "rune" version of daggers, staves and even wands and scepters. If not for now, keep it in mind for PoE 2. (I know it's an unpopular opinion to nerf bow caster, but stay kind, please. Thanks.) Last edited by Ohminger#2322 on Dec 18, 2020, 7:30:52 PM Last bumped on Dec 18, 2020, 9:26:48 AM
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Nothing wrong with spellcaster bows.
All this shows is how bad staves are. Cant even compete with bows and staves simply need a buff enabling staves to compete with bows or shield + wand and have a reason to exist. If you go staves, your block will be lower and you cant utilize on block effects - so shield wins pretty much every time in this regard. If you dont care about block, go for a bow and be happy you get to equip another item now, providing res and life. Staves do nothing like that. The only reason to ever go for staves would be the ability to run a 2nd 6l and thats it. There was a time in PoE when you had to bring a clear ability and a boss killer ability to the table - thats when staves used to be good. But any 4l setup will do to clear maps just fine now so a 2nd 6l setup isnt needed anymore. Last edited by Orbaal#0435 on Dec 18, 2020, 4:41:23 AM
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Well, then at least give staves a buff. The 2nd 6L reason is gone with 2.0 anyway. So, there must be a change in future.
For the more spelldamage mod on staff there could also be a less castspeed mod. Thats how 1h vs 2h melee weapons are balanced (just about). Last edited by Ohminger#2322 on Dec 18, 2020, 7:31:12 PM
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" The easy fix: add cloaks to the game, that can only be equipped when a two-handed, non-bow weapon is equipped. The only reason casters choose bows over staves is because of the quiver. One of my pet peeves if finding a staff and thinking this is great, but I can get the same on a bow and use a quiver to add additional life/resists/what have you. To me, when bows have quivers and one-handed weapons have a shield or a second one-handed weapon, two-handed non-bows should something such as cloak to compensate. |
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" Sorry, what? Bows, unlike staves, are ranged weapons, perfect for CoC. That's why people use them, not because of freaking quivers. Sitting in HO spamming alts for 4 hours straight is peak PoE gameplay. Thanks, Chris.
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You know this game is ridiculous when this exist but staves can t get offhand items Forum pvp
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I was just thinking yesterday how utterly silly it is that bows outclass staves and wands as a caster weapon. Wands. Fucking MAGICAL WIZARD WANDS are a bad caster weapon.
This is a buff™
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