Auras builds in SSF ?

Hi guys,

Can auras builds be played in SSF ? Or is it just depending on "reduced mana reservation" specific items ?

If you mean aura-stacking Scion builds, SSF is a challenge. A few people do it, but it would take some serious farming I imagine.

If not using reduced mana reservation corrupted jewels and alternate quality gems, should be doable in few hundred hours.

The uniques required are quite common, in specially if you run many heists, cluster jewels with increased aura effect are not extremely rare, but you need to have some chaos to run delirium maps / simulacrum.

Karv did it for the Gauntlet. Spectre/Guardian.

He has 3 builds of it up right now.

AgentYaderTheKarvSaver seems to be the one with the most aura's stacked and the one that he used for the event.

Thanks guys, yeah i saw a lot of guardians with "auras" instead of skills on the Gauntlet. I don't know exactly how it works, but i wanted to know if it's doable in SSF for a novice in "auras" before digging the subject :)

First of all, i have zero experience with SSF.

I do have experience with aurastackers though and i think many people dont realise how steeply it scales with investment. A 15mirror 400% aura effect, 14-15 auras stacker is completely and utterly OP. Thats what we have all seen on youtube or twitch and what causes all the envious people to complain.

The average 50-100ex aurastacker however with 300% aura effect, running 13 auras is a nice build, but not OP or imbalanced. I like my 70ex aurastacker a lot, it is good at clearing maps. 100% delirium is challenging, but he can do it. Heist and delve however i still do with my juggernaut because it is more tanky. So this seems pretty balanced.

Before i had 300% aura effect, the build was very dissapointing. Imagine running one with significantly less than 13 auras too and it will be a piece of crap really. Definatly sub-par compared to other builds that are cheaper and easier to build.

Conclusion: I have zero experience with SSF. I am comparing tradeleague builds to other trade league builds, but in SSF even a character like my simple, cheap and basic juggernaut is probably hard to build. So i dont know how my judgement of "a piece of crap" would fit into the SSF world. However, seeing how steeply the build relies on investment, i surely think it would be an extra challenge on top of SSF to try and make it work there rather than a good idea to get a powerful build.

All of that is of course also assuming you are talking about the aura-stacker in the way that it depends entirely on auras for both his offence and defence. I dont think that can be truly viable unless 1000s of hours of farming. Running some auras and trying to run a few extra should of course be possible.

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Keboom wrote:

Thanks guys, yeah i saw a lot of guardians with "auras" instead of skills on the Gauntlet. I don't know exactly how it works, but i wanted to know if it's doable in SSF for a novice in "auras" before digging the subject :)

In this case you are talking about an aurabot, not an aura stacker.

Aurabots are intended for party play only, so they make no sense in SSF.

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NonExistingName wrote:

However, seeing how steeply the build relies on investment, i surely think it would be an extra challenge on top of SSF to try and make it work there rather than a good idea to get a powerful build.

Yeah i think the same, i guess it doesn't worth it in SSF, at least for an auras novice. But i will first look the difference about this auras bot and auras stackers things.

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GreyLensman wrote:

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Keboom wrote:

Thanks guys, yeah i saw a lot of guardians with "auras" instead of skills on the Gauntlet. I don't know exactly how it works, but i wanted to know if it's doable in SSF for a novice in "auras" before digging the subject :)

In this case you are talking about an aurabot, not an aura stacker.

Aurabots are intended for party play only, so they make no sense in SSF.

Actually i saw this Guardians auras in the Gauntlet event : https://poe-racing.com/
So it was SSF :)

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i will first look the difference about this auras bot and auras stackers things.

Aurabots have been around for a long time. They are intended to provide as many auras as possible to boost their party. They do not focus on their own dps at all, so they are usually not good for solo play.

Aura stacking is a recent phenomenon that involves using specific cluster passives to boost aura effects. With the right gear and clusters, and enough auras, you can boost your aura effects by 400% and make a nearly immortal character. Doing so is absurdly expensive, and GGG has done a good job of nerfing the build at less expensive levels, so there are more limited options and it's become a build for mainly elite players and RMTers.

It's still possible to build an aura stacker for 50-100 ex, but these are actually not much more OP than some solid builds you can pull of for quite a bit less currency.

Downsides of aura stacking other than the cost are that you need to level them as something else and then transition to aura stacking once you hit ~90. They also rely heavily on Reduced Mana Res, so you need to really understand that mechanic well. For those reasons, they are generally not a good build for novice players. There is also the possibility that they will continue to be nerfed. Although that's impossible to predict. GGG have never liked immortal builds in the past, but perhaps the philosophy is changing to allow immortal builds if they are expensive enough.