Eldritch Battery, Mana, Mana regeneration (math)

Hello,

I am trying to come up with the formula for mana, mana regeneration using EB.
Something is not right in my calculations.
Here's want I've been doing:
TOTAL MANA calculations
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Level: 37
INT: 186

Mana part:
Base Mana:40
Mana from level: (37-1)*4 = 144
Mana from INT: 186/2 = 93
Mana from gear: 131

BASE_MANA = 408

Passive Mana%: 20%

TOTAL MANA = 489.6 -> 490
FORMULA:
TOTAL MANA = Base_Mana * ( 1 + passive_mana% )
where Base_Mana = function(INT,lvl,gear)


TURN EB ON
ES part:
ES from INT: 186/500 = 37.2%
ES from gear = 63
Passive ES: 34%
TOTAL ES = 63 * ( 1 + 37.2% + 34% ) = 107.8 -> 108
FORMULA:
TOTAL ES = Base_ES(gear,aura) * ( 1 + ES_INT% + ES_passive% )

Now the tricky part:
As I understand is that the TOTAL ES is added to the TOTAL MANA, meaning that ES is not modified by mana % increase.

FINAL MANA = TOTAL MANA + TOTAL ES = 490 + 108 = 598

The problem is that the Character panel in game shows 588 MANA.


Can you guys help correct these calculations?

MANA REGEN calculations
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MANA REGEN = 1.05*FINAL_MANA*(1 + REGEN_from_gear + REGEN_from_passives)/60


UPDATE: Problem has been solved and now my calculations check out!

Gear used in the calculations:
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Passive tree used: link

You can find below the final Mana formula when using Eldritch Battery:

Basic Formula:
Final_Mana = BaseMana * ( 1 + PassiveMana% ) + BaseES * ( 1 + PassiveMana% + PassiveES% )

where:
Base Mana = function(LevelMana,IntMana,PassiveFlatMana)
BaseES = ES from Gear

Auras and InnerForce:
Discipline (mupltiplied by 1.3 from InnerForce) will be added to BaseES.

Final Mana Regen Fromula:
Final Mana Regen = ( (Final_Mana * 105% / 60) + Clarity ) * ( 1 + PassiveManaRegen% + GearManaRegen% )
Last edited by nebunelux#1236 on Mar 29, 2013, 6:10:18 AM
I will my gear and passives for better comprehension.

Gear:
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Passives: click me
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nebunelux wrote:
TOTAL ES = Base_ES(gear,aura) * ( 1 + ES_INT% + ES_passive% +passive_mana% )
Fixed.

When you convert A to B, you apply all percentages that increase A, and all percentages that increase B, just as if A and B were the same thing.

However, that only makes things more confusing, because you should have even more mana than is displayed.
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Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Mar 28, 2013, 10:08:31 AM
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nebunelux wrote:
Hello,
Mana part:
Base Mana:40
Mana from level: (37-1)*4 = 144
Mana from INT: 186/2 = 93
Mana from gear: 131


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nebunelux wrote:
I will my gear and passives for better comprehension.

Gear:
Spoiler


Passives: click me


There is missing information.

1. From your gear, I can only see 93 mana, where did you get your 131 from?
2. You didn't take into account the base mana from Deep Wisdom

From your tree and your int, in order to get 588 mana in total, you likely have to have 103 mana from gear. you probably linked the wrong paua amulet or something
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Last edited by Invalesco#7360 on Mar 28, 2013, 10:15:39 AM
Thx Invalesco, I corrected.
Deleted mana that came for boots not wearing anymore and added 20 mana from passive.
Chest 28
Weapon 13
Ring 52
Passive 20
TOTAL MANA from gear = 113

So TOTAL MANA = 113 + 144 + 93 + 40 = 390

20% mana from passive:
MANA = 390 * 1.2 = 468
TOTAL ES = 108 (from first post)

FINAL MANA is 468 + 108 = 576

Still differ from 588 on Character Panel.

Paua is not included in total mana calculations. This is where my flaw is!
Mana regen is largely based on max mana.

EDIT:
Redone calculations: applying mana% to ES. (just found a post by Mark explaining it).

Passive mana: 20%
FINAL MANA = 390 * (1 + 20%) + 108 * (1 + 20%) = 468 + 130 = 597

597 != 588 Still differ from what I got ingame.
Last edited by nebunelux#1236 on Mar 28, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
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nebunelux wrote:
EDIT:
Redone calculations: applying mana% to ES. (just found a post by Mark explaining it).
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