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Exile009 wrote:
^*shots fired!* :DDD
Edit: Awww, no fun allowed, it seems. :/ (there was another comment above)
Wow .. that was seriously only meant as a fun pun like on stand up comedy, no ill things intended. But apparently, one has to report that and then get lectured baout hate speech. Guess it's the last time I paid for POE again. I do not like to be threatened for a joke.
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Posted byvoonvoon#6984on Sep 15, 2020, 2:33:29 PM
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The world came pretty close to inheriting Polish as the language of serious scientific communication around the time of Copernicus, who anticipated the uproar it would cause in Rome and delayed a formalized Latin translation of his research notes for decades as a way of forestalling nosy priests.
Meanwhile, he collaborated closely with other Poles at the University of Krakow, communicating sections of the work in Polish.
Naturally, the quality and robustness of his calculations led the Italian philosophers and mathematicians to take notice of what he was doing. He was sent to Rome to study canon law but maintained a vigorous interest in astronomy and physics.
Although he was eventually brought to the attention of Pope Clement VII, this was in the spirit of genuine scientific and metaphysic curiosity and not in the sense of being betrayed to the Inquisition.
That said, it's thought if he had published his work earlier before studying in Rome under the sponsorship of wealthy clerics in the family, he might have become an apostate target, and the study of astronomy might have found itself aligned with the Protestant reformation and kept its vernacular.
Just as law students used to need a solid background in Latin to be able to grasp the sense of some important historical legal texts, and medical students were strongly encouraged if not required to have studied German and French for the large amount of pioneering work in surgery and pathology coming from schools in Paris and Vienna, physics and astronomy might have required Polish fluency where one would find the majority of the sciences foundations written by Copernicus and colleagues.
As it happens, the work was published in Latin and enjoyed a far wider readership, but by the time the popes decided to label it heretical, Nic was gone and now it was Galileo's turn.
Meanwhile in Baghdad...
[19:36]#Mirror_stacking_clown: try smoke ganja every day for 10 years and do memory game Last edited by crunkatog#0985 on Sep 15, 2020, 3:18:02 PM
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Posted bycrunkatog#0985on Sep 15, 2020, 3:17:06 PM
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shadowthedead wrote:
Financial support factor is whenever they add Polska language or not?
Stick to English, great language
I agree.
Back in the day I did a bit of work for the German translation. From that I predict you're better off with the English version than a Polish translation.
Bird lover of Wraeclast
Las estrellas te iluminan - Hoy te sirven de guía
Te sientes tan fuerte que piensas - que nadie te puede tocar
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Posted byMikrotherion#4706on Sep 15, 2020, 3:21:04 PM
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crunkatog wrote:
The world came pretty close to inheriting Polish as the language of serious scientific communication around the time of Copernicus, who anticipated the uproar it would cause in Rome and delayed a formalized Latin translation of his research notes for decades as a way of forestalling nosy priests.
Meanwhile, he collaborated closely with other Poles at the University of Krakow, communicating sections of the work in Polish.
Naturally, the quality and robustness of his calculations led the Italian philosophers and mathematicians to take notice of what he was doing. He was sent to Rome to study canon law but maintained a vigorous interest in astronomy and physics.
Although he was eventually brought to the attention of Pope Clement VII, this was in the spirit of genuine scientific and metaphysic curiosity and not in the sense of being betrayed to the Inquisition.
That said, it's thought if he had published his work earlier before studying in Rome under the sponsorship of wealthy clerics in the family, he might have become an apostate target, and the study of astronomy might have found itself aligned with the Protestant reformation and kept its vernacular.
Just as law students used to need a solid background in Latin to be able to grasp the sense of some important historical legal texts, and medical students were strongly encouraged if not required to have studied German and French for the large amount of pioneering work in surgery and pathology coming from schools in Paris and Vienna, physics and astronomy might have required Polish fluency where one would find the majority of the sciences foundations written by Copernicus and colleagues.
As it happens, the work was published in Latin and enjoyed a far wider readership, but by the time the popes decided to label it heretical, Nic was gone and now it was Galileo's turn.
Meanwhile in Baghdad...
Thanks for the historical insight :) I honestly never intended to insult anyone .. I thougt we could have some fun there. But we also have to recognize the early arabic scientists there, if we go Baghdad. I think my countrymen back then basically excelled at throwing rocks, while they brought mathematics etc to us, and we had to danegrously and silently have to dispatch some monks that would under danger of death learn from them. OK, they might not have been from Baghdad, but .. :) Now we're still good at throwing rocks, at perfect ballstical curves.
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Posted byvoonvoon#6984on Sep 15, 2020, 3:33:13 PM
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voonvoon wrote:
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crunkatog wrote:
The world came pretty close to inheriting Polish as the language of serious scientific communication around the time of Copernicus, who anticipated the uproar it would cause in Rome and delayed a formalized Latin translation of his research notes for decades as a way of forestalling nosy priests.
Meanwhile, he collaborated closely with other Poles at the University of Krakow, communicating sections of the work in Polish.
Naturally, the quality and robustness of his calculations led the Italian philosophers and mathematicians to take notice of what he was doing. He was sent to Rome to study canon law but maintained a vigorous interest in astronomy and physics.
Although he was eventually brought to the attention of Pope Clement VII, this was in the spirit of genuine scientific and metaphysic curiosity and not in the sense of being betrayed to the Inquisition.
That said, it's thought if he had published his work earlier before studying in Rome under the sponsorship of wealthy clerics in the family, he might have become an apostate target, and the study of astronomy might have found itself aligned with the Protestant reformation and kept its vernacular.
Just as law students used to need a solid background in Latin to be able to grasp the sense of some important historical legal texts, and medical students were strongly encouraged if not required to have studied German and French for the large amount of pioneering work in surgery and pathology coming from schools in Paris and Vienna, physics and astronomy might have required Polish fluency where one would find the majority of the sciences foundations written by Copernicus and colleagues.
As it happens, the work was published in Latin and enjoyed a far wider readership, but by the time the popes decided to label it heretical, Nic was gone and now it was Galileo's turn.
Meanwhile in Baghdad...
Thanks for the historical insight :) I honestly never intended to insult anyone .. I thougt we could have some fun there. But we also have to recognize the early arabic scientists there, if we go Baghdad. I think my countrymen back then basically excelled at throwing rocks, while they brought mathematics etc to us, and we had to danegrously and silently have to dispatch some monks that would under danger of death learn from them. OK, they might not have been from Baghdad, but .. :) Now we're still good at throwing rocks, at perfect ballstical curves.
This is why I mentioned Baghdad, because astronomy, physics, medicine, and philosophy had a 600-800 year headstart there. And the Umayyads had made less of a habit of burning promising experts at the stake :P
[19:36]#Mirror_stacking_clown: try smoke ganja every day for 10 years and do memory game
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Posted bycrunkatog#0985on Sep 15, 2020, 5:07:36 PM
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voonvoon wrote:
This is why I mentioned Baghdad, because astronomy, physics, medicine, and philosophy had a 600-800 year headstart there. And the Umayyads had made less of a habit of burning promising experts at the stake :P
Tru dat. What a weird shift in how an area is being perceived as these days. For some reasons, this talk reminds me of the movie "Les Visiteurs" with the "Saracen in a car" scene :) (Hilarious french movies, if you haven't seen them do so). Referring to humour I definitly wish the 80ies and 90ies back. Stuff was funny and named and pointed out as is back then. Nowadays people want to report you for dark humour etc.
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Posted byvoonvoon#6984on Sep 16, 2020, 5:26:08 AM
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