GM in game is like a Bot, why hire such people? Chat log inside, opinions anyone?
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Before there is any flaming wars although I am pretty sure its going to invite some and mods may even delete this. - I wish to highlight that I am not complaining about the GM as I do realize that I am at fault here since I am deemed to have break the rules. (which I still don't know where is it admittedly). - Its also a simple show of how the GM is inflexible with the rules. - I am debating how he should have handle the situation and how inflexible he is. Not about rules. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My rant: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My point is simple, them GMs don't use brain. Why don't just code word detectors into the software then? Cut cost and save you from doing P&L budgeting. They are suppose to made sense judgment and not abuse their power. I repeat SENSIBLE JUDGEMENT. - The first feeling when I get muted was that the person knows the GM personally. - I was asking a simple question, someone was being irritating (and wrongly, since its not about trade), and i just tell him off. BAM, muted for nothing. No warning, no question asked. I don't even see gold spammer muted so fast. What? they are gay partners or something? - Why was I peeved? Because the GM banned without a single warning, nor any reasons before he banned. Even a judge looks at the evidence before giving judgment, why? GM pretending to be god in a game? A game that I donate money to which I extremely regretted (but that's not the main problem here) - And the GM even say that MUTING is not a form of power that GM have (only ban is a form of power abusement from GM). Then why not allow players like us to mute others as well? Again he doesn't make sense. - I also realize (I am in Customer service before), them superiors or whatever always side with each other. All I asked for are WARNING BEFORE POWER IS ADMINISTERED. Log below: (I have deleted away everything except the my conversation and the i**** that crossed me as well as the GM) 2013/03/25 19:30:47 1834353 #Auroja: any.. pro high end wand crafter here? i got a very good wand want to ask for opinion. 2013/03/25 19:31:29 1876146 #Rosheen: go TRADE 2013/03/25 19:31:43 1890560 #Auroja: Hi rosheen 2013/03/25 19:31:45 1892338 #Auroja: ur an idiot 2013/03/25 19:31:48 1895536 #Auroja: and u sound like one 2013/03/25 19:31:58 1905552 #Auroja: Gaea, depends 2013/03/25 19:32:04 1910856 #Auroja: can go up to 100+ 2013/03/25 19:32:12 1919701 #Auroja: nono 2013/03/25 19:32:14 1921776 #Auroja: not same mod 2013/03/25 19:32:32 1938998 @Henry_GGG: 10min mute for insulting other players in global chat 2013/03/25 19:32:46 1953413 >@Henry_GGG: hello 2013/03/25 19:32:50 1957422 >@Henry_GGG: why u mute me? 2013/03/25 19:33:05 1972523 : Your account has been muted by a GM. You will be able to talk again in 9 minutes and 17 seconds 2013/03/25 19:33:08 1975206 #Rosheen: Auroja reported 2013/03/25 19:33:10 1977016 >@Henry_GGG: hi 2013/03/25 19:33:12 1978997 >@Henry_GGG: u there? 2013/03/25 19:33:23 1990229 >@Henry_GGG: does GM allow u to abuse your power? 2013/03/25 19:33:27 1994207 >@Henry_GGG: without cause and reason? 2013/03/25 19:34:56 2083408 >@Henry_GGG: i am writing 2013/03/25 19:35:02 2089430 >@Henry_GGG: an official email to complain abt u 2013/03/25 19:35:04 2090834 >@Henry_GGG: to GGG 2013/03/25 19:35:09 2096606 >@Henry_GGG: keeping mute 2013/03/25 19:35:14 2101333 >@Henry_GGG: and just banning another play 2013/03/25 19:35:18 2105217 @Henry_GGG: Please send your email to Support@GrindingGear.com 2013/03/25 19:35:20 2107417 >@Henry_GGG: player* is abusing of power 2013/03/25 19:35:27 2113969 @Henry_GGG: Happy to discuss your mute with you there, cheers. 2013/03/25 19:35:33 2120240 >@Henry_GGG: arrogant 2013/03/25 19:35:41 2128118 >@Henry_GGG: is that how GGG treat their players? 2013/03/25 19:35:46 2132845 >@Henry_GGG: i ask you why you mute me. 2013/03/25 19:35:51 2138243 >@Henry_GGG: is that too much to ask? 2013/03/25 19:36:05 2151846 @Henry_GGG: Auroja: Hi rosheen Auroja: ur an idiot 2013/03/25 19:36:17 2163827 >@Henry_GGG: idiot 2013/03/25 19:36:20 2167758 >@Henry_GGG: is it offensive? 2013/03/25 19:36:24 2170941 @Henry_GGG: you insulted another player. 2013/03/25 19:36:32 2179521 @Henry_GGG: doesn't matter what word is used, an insult is an insult. 2013/03/25 19:36:39 2186260 @Henry_GGG: and we do not tolerate insults at all. 2013/03/25 19:37:03 2210112 @Henry_GGG: but he is being irritating in the first place. 2013/03/25 19:37:10 2216977 @Henry_GGG: then /ignore him 2013/03/25 19:37:16 2223638 @Henry_GGG: or if he/she is breaking the rules, report them 2013/03/25 19:37:20 2227709 @Henry_GGG: insulting them does notthing productive 2013/03/25 19:37:23 2230205 >@Henry_GGG: sure but you can warn 2013/03/25 19:37:31 2238520 >@Henry_GGG: dont need to immediately administrate your powers 2013/03/25 19:37:35 2242373 >@Henry_GGG: without warning 2013/03/25 19:37:39 2246492 >@Henry_GGG: you muted 2013/03/25 19:37:44 2251734 @Henry_GGG: a 10min mute is a warning 2013/03/25 19:37:50 2257646 >@Henry_GGG: if you said nicely in the first place. i would have /ignore him 2013/03/25 19:37:55 2262326 @Henry_GGG: had I banned you for something like that, then sure, that'd be abusing my power. 2013/03/25 19:38:05 2271936 >@Henry_GGG: muting other players is a form of power is it not? 2013/03/25 19:38:09 2276772 >@Henry_GGG: warning is reminding ppl 2013/03/25 19:38:15 2282653 >@Henry_GGG: not just muting without reason. 2013/03/25 19:38:33 2300733 >@Henry_GGG: if you say "Auroja, you are warnded for being offensive" 2013/03/25 19:38:39 2306708 >@Henry_GGG: sure. i will reform my langauge 2013/03/25 19:38:49 2316427 >@Henry_GGG: even tho he's being irritating. 2013/03/25 19:38:51 2318783 >@Henry_GGG: but u just mute 2013/03/25 19:38:55 2322433 >@Henry_GGG: i dont even have the chance 2013/03/25 19:38:58 2325725 >@Henry_GGG: to say something 2013/03/25 19:39:00 2327675 >@Henry_GGG: nice back 2013/03/25 19:39:02 2329001 >@Henry_GGG: or watever 2013/03/25 19:39:10 2337191 >@Henry_GGG: how can you do that? 2013/03/25 19:39:16 2343103 >@Henry_GGG: its like i throw something on the floor. 2013/03/25 19:39:19 2346114 @Henry_GGG: I don't understand why a warning is needed, you've agreed to the rules and then broken them, if you're not aware of the rules then that is your fault. 2013/03/25 19:39:19 2346223 >@Henry_GGG: and u just fine me 2013/03/25 19:40:25 2412680 >@Henry_GGG: if i use extreme language like "f***" or something 2013/03/25 19:40:26 2413351 >@Henry_GGG: sure 2013/03/25 19:40:34 2421182 @Henry_GGG: swearing is allowed 2013/03/25 19:40:41 2428389 >@Henry_GGG: awesome game 2013/03/25 19:40:44 2431681 >@Henry_GGG: so i can swear at u 2013/03/25 19:40:47 2434567 @Henry_GGG: have you actually read the rules before? 2013/03/25 19:40:54 2441478 >@Henry_GGG: but i cannot say ur an "id***"? 2013/03/25 19:41:02 2449168 @Henry_GGG: that is correct, yes. 2013/03/25 19:41:02 2449402 >@Henry_GGG: i can say ur a motherf******* 2013/03/25 19:41:08 2455190 >@Henry_GGG: but not ur an idiot? 2013/03/25 19:41:21 2468310 @Henry_GGG: calling me a motherfucker is an insult, so no, you can't. 2013/03/25 19:41:48 2494877 >@Henry_GGG: ok. fuck you then. 2013/03/25 19:41:52 2499136 >@Henry_GGG: is this an inmsult? 2013/03/25 19:41:53 2500228 >@Henry_GGG: to u? 2013/03/25 19:42:00 2507560 >@Henry_GGG: i mean 2013/03/25 19:42:01 2508418 @Henry_GGG: Technically it is an insult, yes. 2013/03/25 19:42:10 2516826 >@Henry_GGG: but u just say swearing is ok? 2013/03/25 19:42:18 2525546 @Henry_GGG: "fuck fuck fuck" = perfectly fine 2013/03/25 19:42:28 2534907 @Henry_GGG: "fuck you namehere" = not fine 2013/03/25 19:43:33 2600224 >@Henry_GGG: well. i got nothing to say about this. 2013/03/25 19:43:49 2615793 >@Henry_GGG: but just this. no warning and just direct mute when the other party is being unreasionable 2013/03/25 19:44:03 2630114 >@Henry_GGG: without thinking. might as well use a bot. and ur a GM 2013/03/25 19:44:06 2633359 >@Henry_GGG: GG indeed 2013/03/25 19:44:28 2655511 @Henry_GGG: Next time, read the rules, then when you break them there won't be any confusion as to why you're being muted. 2013/03/25 19:44:54 2680986 >@Henry_GGG: next time i should encounter such things before donating to the cause in supporting GM like you. 2013/03/25 19:45:04 2691610 >@Henry_GGG: is this an insult? 2013/03/25 19:45:08 2695338 >@Henry_GGG: hopefully no. 2013/03/25 19:45:12 2698817 >@Henry_GGG: its my opinion of u. 2013/03/25 19:45:17 2704339 >@Henry_GGG: technically speaking 2013/03/25 19:45:22 2709191 @Henry_GGG: I genuinely have no idea what that even means sorry. 2013/03/25 19:45:39 2726507 >@Henry_GGG: you genuinely have no idea how to be a GM. sorry to said that to you. 2013/03/25 19:45:47 2734151 >@Henry_GGG: how can i dowbload this log 2013/03/25 19:45:49 2736787 >@Henry_GGG: of what we spoke of. 2013/03/25 19:46:18 2765538 @Henry_GGG: It's located in your log file, which is found in: \Program Files\GrindingGearGames\Path of Exile\logs\ and then in the 'client.txt' file. 2013/03/25 19:46:19 2766396 >@Henry_GGG: at least maybe i can let your folks know about warning other than just rules. 2013/03/25 19:46:23 2769875 >@Henry_GGG: thanks bot. 2013/03/25 19:46:30 2777238 @Henry_GGG: No problemo, happy to help :D 2013/03/25 19:46:56 2803525 @Henry_GGG: Would you like our email address again to get in touch with us/my superior? 2013/03/25 19:47:03 2810014 >@Henry_GGG: 1 more qns, how do i report priv msgs. 2013/03/25 19:47:10 2817440 >@Henry_GGG: i realise i cant do that 2013/03/25 19:47:18 2825037 @Henry_GGG: Private Messages / Team Chat / Local town chat = cannot be reported. 2013/03/25 19:47:21 2828672 @Henry_GGG: Only Global/Trade chats. 2013/03/25 19:47:25 2831823 >@Henry_GGG: nice 2013/03/25 19:47:29 2836332 >@Henry_GGG: so what happen to rules? 2013/03/25 19:47:34 2840934 >@Henry_GGG: so next time i want to insult him 2013/03/25 19:47:37 2844397 >@Henry_GGG: i priv msg him? 2013/03/25 19:47:57 2864115 @Henry_GGG: I'd ask nicely that you don't, otherwise the other player will likely /ignore you. 2013/03/25 19:48:12 2879466 >@Henry_GGG: thats fine. so long as I dont get mute. 2013/03/25 19:48:15 2882336 @Henry_GGG: and if you choose to harrass someone via PM and they take screenshots/email them to us, we'll be having a chat again. 2013/03/25 19:48:20 2887079 >@Henry_GGG: right 2013/03/25 19:48:26 2893584 >@Henry_GGG: so this time maybe u can use warnings 2013/03/25 19:48:28 2895175 >@Henry_GGG: u know 2013/03/25 19:48:50 2917156 @Henry_GGG: Well I will take your feedback and pass it onto my team leader. 2013/03/25 19:48:57 2924425 @Henry_GGG: As well as add a note to your account saying that you've been warned. IGN: Aiers. Last edited by ionface#0613 on Mar 25, 2013, 9:20:38 AM
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It's a 10 minute mute ffs. You're the only obnoxious one in that chatlog.
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" Seconded. OP, you call someone an idiot in chat and wonder why you got muted? really? |
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So you got a 10 minute mute for insulting which is perfectly fine and then continued to waste your and the GM's time for 18 minutes...
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TLDR.
GGG needs to review their policies regarding ingame communication. PoE chat is becoming a cesspool. The other day I had a bunch of kids discussing anal beads and chainsaw ejaculation and making dog talk jokes using of extremely vulgar/offensive/filthy language while a mod read it, said it was fine and did nothing... then the mod logged out. Insanely bad looking for PoE. [Suggestion] How to end Desync: [url]http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/335390[/url]
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" "Is it offensive?" Did you really ask that question? id·i·ot [id-ee-uht] noun 1. Informal. an utterly foolish or senseless person. 2. Psychology . (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25. |
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Wow, you got a 10 min mute and you moaned to the GM for 20 odd minutes. Get over it!! Im glad the GM's are tidying up chat, as its pretty bad at the moment. Try calling a random stranger an idiot to their face in real life and let us know how that goes.... Last edited by calendor#4192 on Mar 25, 2013, 8:32:20 AM
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I like Henry's sense of humor.
" Other then that... OP you are an id... oh wait no I cannot say that can I ^^. |
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Well, I must admit that the GM was doing his job just perfectly fine! He even continued to answer your questions politely despite of your obvious anger against him.
It's also appearant that it was you that made the wrong thing (which you mentioned as well in the beginning of your post) so I fail to see why you even are having this discussion. Since you have not read the rules and didn't follow them then you get the penalty for that. It's not really like the police would give you a warning the first time you är driving your care above the allowed speed limit even though you say you wasn't aware of the "rules" that says you have to follow the speed limits. You will get a fine directly and learn the hard way, exactly as you will have to do in this case as well. Just move on and stop putting energy into this.. /T IGN: Azatooth or Xploding
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Imo the GM handled this pretty professional and the right way. Troublemakers aint needed in chat.
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