GM in game is like a Bot, why hire such people? Chat log inside, opinions anyone?

Disclaimer:
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- Before there is any flaming wars although I am pretty sure its going to invite some and mods may even delete this.

- I wish to highlight that I am not complaining about the GM as I do realize that I am at fault here since I am deemed to have break the rules. (which I still don't know where is it admittedly).

- Its also a simple show of how the GM is inflexible with the rules.

- I am debating how he should have handle the situation and how inflexible he is. Not about rules.
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My rant:
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My point is simple, them GMs don't use brain. Why don't just code word detectors into the software then? Cut cost and save you from doing P&L budgeting. They are suppose to made sense judgment and not abuse their power.

I repeat SENSIBLE JUDGEMENT.

- The first feeling when I get muted was that the person knows the GM personally.

- I was asking a simple question, someone was being irritating (and wrongly, since its not about trade), and i just tell him off. BAM, muted for nothing. No warning, no question asked. I don't even see gold spammer muted so fast. What? they are gay partners or something?

- Why was I peeved? Because the GM banned without a single warning, nor any reasons before he banned. Even a judge looks at the evidence before giving judgment, why? GM pretending to be god in a game? A game that I donate money to which I extremely regretted (but that's not the main problem here)

- And the GM even say that MUTING is not a form of power that GM have (only ban is a form of power abusement from GM). Then why not allow players like us to mute others as well? Again he doesn't make sense.

- I also realize (I am in Customer service before), them superiors or whatever always side with each other. All I asked for are WARNING BEFORE POWER IS ADMINISTERED.


Log below:
(I have deleted away everything except the my conversation and the i**** that crossed me as well as the GM)


2013/03/25 19:30:47 1834353 #Auroja: any.. pro high end wand crafter here? i got a very good wand want to ask for opinion.
2013/03/25 19:31:29 1876146 #Rosheen: go TRADE
2013/03/25 19:31:43 1890560 #Auroja: Hi rosheen
2013/03/25 19:31:45 1892338 #Auroja: ur an idiot
2013/03/25 19:31:48 1895536 #Auroja: and u sound like one
2013/03/25 19:31:58 1905552 #Auroja: Gaea, depends
2013/03/25 19:32:04 1910856 #Auroja: can go up to 100+
2013/03/25 19:32:12 1919701 #Auroja: nono
2013/03/25 19:32:14 1921776 #Auroja: not same mod
2013/03/25 19:32:32 1938998 @Henry_GGG: 10min mute for insulting other players in global chat
2013/03/25 19:32:46 1953413 >@Henry_GGG: hello
2013/03/25 19:32:50 1957422 >@Henry_GGG: why u mute me?
2013/03/25 19:33:05 1972523 : Your account has been muted by a GM. You will be able to talk again in 9 minutes and 17 seconds
2013/03/25 19:33:08 1975206 #Rosheen: Auroja reported
2013/03/25 19:33:10 1977016 >@Henry_GGG: hi
2013/03/25 19:33:12 1978997 >@Henry_GGG: u there?
2013/03/25 19:33:23 1990229 >@Henry_GGG: does GM allow u to abuse your power?
2013/03/25 19:33:27 1994207 >@Henry_GGG: without cause and reason?
2013/03/25 19:34:56 2083408 >@Henry_GGG: i am writing
2013/03/25 19:35:02 2089430 >@Henry_GGG: an official email to complain abt u
2013/03/25 19:35:04 2090834 >@Henry_GGG: to GGG
2013/03/25 19:35:09 2096606 >@Henry_GGG: keeping mute
2013/03/25 19:35:14 2101333 >@Henry_GGG: and just banning another play
2013/03/25 19:35:18 2105217 @Henry_GGG: Please send your email to Support@GrindingGear.com
2013/03/25 19:35:20 2107417 >@Henry_GGG: player* is abusing of power
2013/03/25 19:35:27 2113969 @Henry_GGG: Happy to discuss your mute with you there, cheers.
2013/03/25 19:35:33 2120240 >@Henry_GGG: arrogant
2013/03/25 19:35:41 2128118 >@Henry_GGG: is that how GGG treat their players?
2013/03/25 19:35:46 2132845 >@Henry_GGG: i ask you why you mute me.
2013/03/25 19:35:51 2138243 >@Henry_GGG: is that too much to ask?
2013/03/25 19:36:05 2151846 @Henry_GGG: Auroja: Hi rosheen Auroja: ur an idiot
2013/03/25 19:36:17 2163827 >@Henry_GGG: idiot
2013/03/25 19:36:20 2167758 >@Henry_GGG: is it offensive?
2013/03/25 19:36:24 2170941 @Henry_GGG: you insulted another player.
2013/03/25 19:36:32 2179521 @Henry_GGG: doesn't matter what word is used, an insult is an insult.
2013/03/25 19:36:39 2186260 @Henry_GGG: and we do not tolerate insults at all.
2013/03/25 19:37:03 2210112 @Henry_GGG: but he is being irritating in the first place.
2013/03/25 19:37:10 2216977 @Henry_GGG: then /ignore him
2013/03/25 19:37:16 2223638 @Henry_GGG: or if he/she is breaking the rules, report them
2013/03/25 19:37:20 2227709 @Henry_GGG: insulting them does notthing productive
2013/03/25 19:37:23 2230205 >@Henry_GGG: sure but you can warn
2013/03/25 19:37:31 2238520 >@Henry_GGG: dont need to immediately administrate your powers
2013/03/25 19:37:35 2242373 >@Henry_GGG: without warning
2013/03/25 19:37:39 2246492 >@Henry_GGG: you muted
2013/03/25 19:37:44 2251734 @Henry_GGG: a 10min mute is a warning
2013/03/25 19:37:50 2257646 >@Henry_GGG: if you said nicely in the first place. i would have /ignore him
2013/03/25 19:37:55 2262326 @Henry_GGG: had I banned you for something like that, then sure, that'd be abusing my power.
2013/03/25 19:38:05 2271936 >@Henry_GGG: muting other players is a form of power is it not?
2013/03/25 19:38:09 2276772 >@Henry_GGG: warning is reminding ppl
2013/03/25 19:38:15 2282653 >@Henry_GGG: not just muting without reason.
2013/03/25 19:38:33 2300733 >@Henry_GGG: if you say "Auroja, you are warnded for being offensive"
2013/03/25 19:38:39 2306708 >@Henry_GGG: sure. i will reform my langauge
2013/03/25 19:38:49 2316427 >@Henry_GGG: even tho he's being irritating.
2013/03/25 19:38:51 2318783 >@Henry_GGG: but u just mute
2013/03/25 19:38:55 2322433 >@Henry_GGG: i dont even have the chance
2013/03/25 19:38:58 2325725 >@Henry_GGG: to say something
2013/03/25 19:39:00 2327675 >@Henry_GGG: nice back
2013/03/25 19:39:02 2329001 >@Henry_GGG: or watever
2013/03/25 19:39:10 2337191 >@Henry_GGG: how can you do that?
2013/03/25 19:39:16 2343103 >@Henry_GGG: its like i throw something on the floor.
2013/03/25 19:39:19 2346114 @Henry_GGG: I don't understand why a warning is needed, you've agreed to the rules and then broken them, if you're not aware of the rules then that is your fault.
2013/03/25 19:39:19 2346223 >@Henry_GGG: and u just fine me
2013/03/25 19:40:25 2412680 >@Henry_GGG: if i use extreme language like "f***" or something
2013/03/25 19:40:26 2413351 >@Henry_GGG: sure
2013/03/25 19:40:34 2421182 @Henry_GGG: swearing is allowed
2013/03/25 19:40:41 2428389 >@Henry_GGG: awesome game
2013/03/25 19:40:44 2431681 >@Henry_GGG: so i can swear at u
2013/03/25 19:40:47 2434567 @Henry_GGG: have you actually read the rules before?
2013/03/25 19:40:54 2441478 >@Henry_GGG: but i cannot say ur an "id***"?
2013/03/25 19:41:02 2449168 @Henry_GGG: that is correct, yes.
2013/03/25 19:41:02 2449402 >@Henry_GGG: i can say ur a motherf*******
2013/03/25 19:41:08 2455190 >@Henry_GGG: but not ur an idiot?
2013/03/25 19:41:21 2468310 @Henry_GGG: calling me a motherfucker is an insult, so no, you can't.
2013/03/25 19:41:48 2494877 >@Henry_GGG: ok. fuck you then.
2013/03/25 19:41:52 2499136 >@Henry_GGG: is this an inmsult?
2013/03/25 19:41:53 2500228 >@Henry_GGG: to u?
2013/03/25 19:42:00 2507560 >@Henry_GGG: i mean
2013/03/25 19:42:01 2508418 @Henry_GGG: Technically it is an insult, yes.
2013/03/25 19:42:10 2516826 >@Henry_GGG: but u just say swearing is ok?
2013/03/25 19:42:18 2525546 @Henry_GGG: "fuck fuck fuck" = perfectly fine
2013/03/25 19:42:28 2534907 @Henry_GGG: "fuck you namehere" = not fine
2013/03/25 19:43:33 2600224 >@Henry_GGG: well. i got nothing to say about this.
2013/03/25 19:43:49 2615793 >@Henry_GGG: but just this. no warning and just direct mute when the other party is being unreasionable
2013/03/25 19:44:03 2630114 >@Henry_GGG: without thinking. might as well use a bot. and ur a GM
2013/03/25 19:44:06 2633359 >@Henry_GGG: GG indeed
2013/03/25 19:44:28 2655511 @Henry_GGG: Next time, read the rules, then when you break them there won't be any confusion as to why you're being muted.
2013/03/25 19:44:54 2680986 >@Henry_GGG: next time i should encounter such things before donating to the cause in supporting GM like you.
2013/03/25 19:45:04 2691610 >@Henry_GGG: is this an insult?
2013/03/25 19:45:08 2695338 >@Henry_GGG: hopefully no.
2013/03/25 19:45:12 2698817 >@Henry_GGG: its my opinion of u.
2013/03/25 19:45:17 2704339 >@Henry_GGG: technically speaking
2013/03/25 19:45:22 2709191 @Henry_GGG: I genuinely have no idea what that even means sorry.
2013/03/25 19:45:39 2726507 >@Henry_GGG: you genuinely have no idea how to be a GM. sorry to said that to you.
2013/03/25 19:45:47 2734151 >@Henry_GGG: how can i dowbload this log
2013/03/25 19:45:49 2736787 >@Henry_GGG: of what we spoke of.
2013/03/25 19:46:18 2765538 @Henry_GGG: It's located in your log file, which is found in: \Program Files\GrindingGearGames\Path of Exile\logs\ and then in the 'client.txt' file.
2013/03/25 19:46:19 2766396 >@Henry_GGG: at least maybe i can let your folks know about warning other than just rules.
2013/03/25 19:46:23 2769875 >@Henry_GGG: thanks bot.
2013/03/25 19:46:30 2777238 @Henry_GGG: No problemo, happy to help :D
2013/03/25 19:46:56 2803525 @Henry_GGG: Would you like our email address again to get in touch with us/my superior?
2013/03/25 19:47:03 2810014 >@Henry_GGG: 1 more qns, how do i report priv msgs.
2013/03/25 19:47:10 2817440 >@Henry_GGG: i realise i cant do that
2013/03/25 19:47:18 2825037 @Henry_GGG: Private Messages / Team Chat / Local town chat = cannot be reported.
2013/03/25 19:47:21 2828672 @Henry_GGG: Only Global/Trade chats.
2013/03/25 19:47:25 2831823 >@Henry_GGG: nice
2013/03/25 19:47:29 2836332 >@Henry_GGG: so what happen to rules?
2013/03/25 19:47:34 2840934 >@Henry_GGG: so next time i want to insult him
2013/03/25 19:47:37 2844397 >@Henry_GGG: i priv msg him?
2013/03/25 19:47:57 2864115 @Henry_GGG: I'd ask nicely that you don't, otherwise the other player will likely /ignore you.
2013/03/25 19:48:12 2879466 >@Henry_GGG: thats fine. so long as I dont get mute.
2013/03/25 19:48:15 2882336 @Henry_GGG: and if you choose to harrass someone via PM and they take screenshots/email them to us, we'll be having a chat again.
2013/03/25 19:48:20 2887079 >@Henry_GGG: right
2013/03/25 19:48:26 2893584 >@Henry_GGG: so this time maybe u can use warnings
2013/03/25 19:48:28 2895175 >@Henry_GGG: u know
2013/03/25 19:48:50 2917156 @Henry_GGG: Well I will take your feedback and pass it onto my team leader.
2013/03/25 19:48:57 2924425 @Henry_GGG: As well as add a note to your account saying that you've been warned.
IGN: Aiers.
Last edited by ionface#0613 on Mar 25, 2013, 9:20:38 AM
It's a 10 minute mute ffs. You're the only obnoxious one in that chatlog.
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tropane wrote:
It's a 10 minute mute ffs. You're the only obnoxious one in that chatlog.


Seconded.

OP, you call someone an idiot in chat and wonder why you got muted?











really?
So you got a 10 minute mute for insulting which is perfectly fine and then continued to waste your and the GM's time for 18 minutes...
TLDR.

GGG needs to review their policies regarding ingame communication.
PoE chat is becoming a cesspool.

The other day I had a bunch of kids discussing anal beads and chainsaw ejaculation and making dog talk jokes using of extremely vulgar/offensive/filthy language while a mod read it, said it was fine and did nothing... then the mod logged out.

Insanely bad looking for PoE.
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2013/03/25 19:36:05 2151846 @Henry_GGG: Auroja: Hi rosheen Auroja: ur an idiot
2013/03/25 19:36:17 2163827 >@Henry_GGG: idiot
2013/03/25 19:36:20 2167758 >@Henry_GGG: is it offensive?


"Is it offensive?" Did you really ask that question?

id·i·ot [id-ee-uht]
noun
1.
Informal. an utterly foolish or senseless person.
2.
Psychology . (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.


Wow, you got a 10 min mute and you moaned to the GM for 20 odd minutes. Get over it!!
Im glad the GM's are tidying up chat, as its pretty bad at the moment.
Try calling a random stranger an idiot to their face in real life and let us know how that goes....
Last edited by calendor#4192 on Mar 25, 2013, 8:32:20 AM
I like Henry's sense of humor.

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2013/03/25 19:46:23 2769875 >@Henry_GGG: thanks bot.
2013/03/25 19:46:30 2777238 @Henry_GGG: No problemo, happy to help :D


Other then that... OP you are an id... oh wait no I cannot say that can I ^^.
Well, I must admit that the GM was doing his job just perfectly fine! He even continued to answer your questions politely despite of your obvious anger against him.

It's also appearant that it was you that made the wrong thing (which you mentioned as well in the beginning of your post) so I fail to see why you even are having this discussion. Since you have not read the rules and didn't follow them then you get the penalty for that.

It's not really like the police would give you a warning the first time you är driving your care above the allowed speed limit even though you say you wasn't aware of the "rules" that says you have to follow the speed limits. You will get a fine directly and learn the hard way, exactly as you will have to do in this case as well.

Just move on and stop putting energy into this..

/T
IGN: Azatooth or Xploding
Imo the GM handled this pretty professional and the right way. Troublemakers aint needed in chat.

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