The "presence of chayula" scam

Seriously can anything be done about this?
I'm trying to buy this amulet but people keep putting "eye of chayula" in trade hoping for a scam. Every time i whisper someone and get invited by some unascendant witch it's like "here we go again".
Can i report them in some way? is there any point to it?
Last bumped on Jul 1, 2020, 12:43:00 PM
Hey,

I fell for this very same scam. I contacted the GGG support team via email. I explained the situation and provided them with the offenders name as well as a screen shot of the trade listing.

They replied to me the next moring with this response:

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Hi there,

Thanks for getting in touch with us! I'm sorry to hear this has happened to you.

I apologise but it's our policy not to get involved in player item/service disputes, as we don't have the resources to fully investigate each one and police them.

I've taken a note of the account in question, and will be flagging it to keep an eye on. When players report others for any kind of behaviour such as scamming, unfair trading, real money trading, abusing bugs and etc, this goes on their record. If they accumulate an extremely bad reputation then we will look at taking things further or finding other ways to resolve these issues. It quite frequently occurs that players who have bad reputations are often committing more serious and bannable offenses.

We really appreciate these reports as they are extremely helpful to us in that it helps us to build a profile around players, and helps us towards making decisions about how to deal with these people in future. I understand why it might appear futile to report scammers to us, but it is in fact quite important and the more reports we get on a player means that we will have a more detailed case when investigating players, the more flexibility we would have when choosing to remove offending accounts.

I would like to encourage you to keep sending reports to us. These do not go ignored or wasted. If you have any other questions please feel free to let us know.

Best regards,
Rob


If you wish to contact them yourself, so they can at least flag the offenders account then you can just email them like I did.

Their email is : support@grindinggear.com
Last edited by SoloWingMetatron#6976 on Jun 30, 2020, 12:29:48 PM
Nothing can be done, this game is already full of scamm-hard bois, just like real life.
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SpaniardPuss wrote:
Nothing can be done, this game is already full of scamm-hard bois, just like real life.


Another user also said this in a thread about my experience to this scam.

If GGG do not actively seek to remove these offenders, then that is disappointing.

However, this is exactly why I think for PoE2 a fully integrated AH or MB be implemented. That would instantly stop any and all trade scams via sales.

One quick fix could be for GGG to just remove the Eye of Chayula.
Last edited by SoloWingMetatron#6976 on Jun 30, 2020, 12:35:29 PM
Just buy a blessing of Chayula and upgrade your eye of chayula into Presence of Chayula.
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Hasunic wrote:
Just buy a blessing of Chayula and upgrade your eye of chayula into Presence of Chayula.


I never even thought of that! I was legit going to just scrap mine out of spite. But I'm just going to upgrade it with a blessing. I love you, thank you! xx
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Hasunic wrote:
Just buy a blessing of Chayula and upgrade your eye of chayula into Presence of Chayula.


But that wouldn't make it possible for people to feel like victims and ask why there's still no auction house.
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Fapmobile wrote:
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Hasunic wrote:
Just buy a blessing of Chayula and upgrade your eye of chayula into Presence of Chayula.


But that wouldn't make it possible for people to feel like victims and ask why there's still no auction house.


I'm one of these victims and have praised him for his help in that matter. He has been a big help for me.

I still support an AH though.
Last edited by SoloWingMetatron#6976 on Jun 30, 2020, 12:44:32 PM
Remember... they *CAN'T* kick you from their hideout.

You can create a buyer account (like all the traders that use trade [illegal term for non-allowed function] - even if it's against the TOS they're out there by the thousands) when you're looking for items like this.

Send your buyer alt to their HO and if they dump the 'Eye' instead of 'Presence' - immediately close the trade, block the player, and set up a repeating macro that says SCAMMER in local every 0.25s

That'll pretty much put an end to their scamming until you log the alt account out.
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Always report them with evidence. There's a high chance that these accounts or the ones 'connected' to them are guilty to way more serious offenses and GGG wil get them at some point.

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