Harvest is not salvageable - Flashback League!

If the numbers for Harvest drop worse than any other league(and they will), I think there should be a flashback league of some kind that lasts 2-3 months. I know the overly optimistic crowd who love Harvest think this is an over exaggeration, but I really think Harvest population is going to fail to unthinkable levels in a very short time span. The only league that came close to this feeling was Synthesis, and somehow Harvest feels much much worse. I've been playing 8 years and I've never seen morale around the game this bad.

Can't have winners every time. GGG does a great job with leagues in general. PoE is in the best state its ever been as a game. The league is just unplayable and can't realistically be fixed. I'm sure COVID may have played a role in how the league turned out. I dont think anyone is mad at GGG but I think accepting the fail of Harvest and replacing it with something semi low effort would mean a lot to the community. It would also likely lead to more supporter packs being bought.


TLDR Solution:

Keep the Harvest League for the remaining amount of planned time

Add a flashback league in parallel with Harvest(But don't include Harvest in flashback league)

Have Harvest and flashback league end at the same time

Finally when the time comes, kill Harvest and kill it good. Seeds should all morph into Bestiary Nets. Seeds should remain a bad memory and nothing more. The only reference to seeds we should ever hear again should come from Einhar.

Wishful thinking, mate...

They even announced it was received extremely well when dozens of threads complain about it being the worst league ever, lol!

Well, much as I *HATE* to do it, in defense of this new (horrible) league... ALL leagues have had their hiccups for the first couple weeks.
In Pokiary it was getting the 'trap' on the rare/unique before it died (they finally added necro nets).
In Metamorph it was having to go pick up all those organs (they eventually made them auto-loot).



Usually it's overtuned mobs/mechanics that give the top 0.01% a challenge and flat out SHRED everyone else - generally to make the 'race to 100' a case study in how masochistic players can truly be. There are the expected server and new-content spawned frame rate issues, too.
These are usually patched after the first week so that the top 10% can maybe reach end game. We already know they don't care about the bottom 90% whatsoever - except their wallets (which they'll get less and less of as a result).

But this... well, Harvest has got so many problems I don't think it's salvageable. Seed drop rate can be patched, sure, but what about the rest of the mechanic? The absolute waste of time it is to even bother with the crafting mechanic?
10 maps just to get enough tier 1 seeds to plant.
5-10 MORE maps for them to 'grow'

Then you 'harvest' them and get... 14 completely worthless 'reforge' crafts that are not usable at all. It's essentially throwing out one entire rare just for a *single* favorable roll on the result. Or 'relroll' what's already on that rare - only to get the same (or worse) results, *never* anything better than what you began with.

Sure... there's the 'remove X' from a rare... but the 'augment rare with X' is about as rare as an exalt.

Setting socket numbers - below 5, WTF bother? You can get these crafts in Delve pretty easily. Even 5 sockets is not difficult, but it's down to RNG where the location will appear. I've found 6 sockets *once* and never found the six-LINK recipe at all (in Delve).

In all... this league: 2/10.

if they really want good numbers and still want a lot of people to play poe they should run something good besides/harvest so they can see how crappy harvest really is tbh.

and doubt it was recieved that well tbh x'D just because they say so doesn't make it so. and if so it's only because of corona :')

It's probably well received by all the SSF HC racers and those are probably the only people GGG talks to ;)

I personally had high hopes for the league in corona times...but i'm really dissapointed, not only by the mechanic but also by the so called "2h rebalance" or whatever this is supposed to be.

So i would be all for some kind of flashback mechanic!

Steam charts show its already lost 30% of its peak players. Peaked at 125k Friday, and today it peaked at 90k. Its going down fast. I mean this hasnt even been a week.

I dont see how its "well recieved."

I enjoyed Synthesis. It was my favorite league. I enjoy solving the puzzles POE provides, and like using two monitors for gaming. Harvest seems to be significantly less power, monsters, and story than Synthesis. This was an incredibly difficult development cycle with COVID-19 and we as a community can't forget that.

That being said, I would welcome a flashback league if it was implemented. The flashback during synthesis still included the Synthesis mechanics IIRC and Harvest could do the same.

I would like a flashback or some other cool 1 month league regadless. Those are fun and actually add competition to the game. I wish they did them a little more often, it's been like a year and a half since the last one right?

I never was a whiner even in bestiary even in talisman... Maybe a little bit in torment I said this league is kinda bad in our guild ts. But this league is just above and beyond, all I do after I got to lvl 86 is whining on reddit and here how terrible this league is. I jsut cannot comprehend how ggg thought this is a good idea for a league.

And I do agree, the only way to fix this league is just delete it and start flashback

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EKTELESTES wrote:

Wishful thinking, mate...

They even announced it was received extremely well when dozens of threads complain about it being the worst league ever, lol!

Every single league you have people crying on this forum as if they were murdered and tell everyone, at length, how the league is shit. So it's a bit difficult to figure it out if the league was really shit, or if it's just people crying because they like to do that, and will say in a few league "this league is shit, remember Harvest? That was a true league!!!", a bit like they do with Synthesis right now.