Need some feedback on which budget GPU to choose.
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Fist up, I'm on a very tight budget and price where I live are generally higher than the US/EU.
I'm going to buying parts to build an new PC over the next couple of months, when all the parts are assembled, I'll build. So far, I've decided on AM4 for the Motherboard and CPU (Intel is just way too expensive). The CPU will likely be a R3 3300x. Not sure about the mobo, the B550 is due in a week or so. If the prices are reasonable I'll probably get one, otherwise it will be a B450, something like the ASRock B450M Pro4. For the GPU I'm really struggling. I primarily play PoE, with time constraints, it's all I have time for. So, in my budget I have: AMD RX 580 8Gb AMD RX 5500 XT 4Gb Nvidia GTX 1650 Super 4Gb The cheapest 8Gb RX 5500 XT and GTX 1660 are ~50 dollars (equivalent) more expensive. I can't get the RX 590. Questions: How impactful would the additional 4Gb on the RX 580 be for PoE? Is anyone using any of the cards mentioned above, if so, which and what to you think about it? Thanks. Last edited by Kellog#5737 on Jun 10, 2020, 1:52:38 AM Last bumped on Jun 11, 2020, 7:29:54 AM
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Look at some gameplay videos on youtube.And you need 8GB on your graphic card.4GB is low.
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There is no application in gaming that requires that 8GB VRAM yet for anything below 4K resolutions and ray tracing. If you game on 1080p, you don't need ultra resolution packs and you'd be more than fine on 4GB VRAM. Now, if you have the budget and want to make sure that you're ready for the future or plan to upgrade to a 4K screen or something, then going with 8GB makes sense, but not if you are on a tight budget and want a good graphics card TODAY.
I'd personally look at a GTX 1650 Super or GTX 1660 Super if you have the money for it. RTX cards are great, I use one myself, but ray tracing is still so niche and so demanding on performance that it's still really not used that much or to its full potential even in today's titles. Even where it is, I enable it for a moment to say "wow, that looks nice" and then disable it to actually play the game with 150 fps instead of 30. If you do really want an RTX though, the EVGA 2060 KO is a really good card at reasonable price, but it's very popular and hard to find a store with an actual stock. As far as AMD goes, I've been an AMD fan for most of my life, but I'm sorry to say that I can't recommend them right now. Their cards are high quality, but their software often lets them down massively. Unfortunately, I've had personal experience with this earlier this year that resulted in me returning my 5700 XT, because I wasn't ready to wait potentially months for them to fix a driver that made me able to use the card as more than an expensive paper weight. Caveat emptor. As a general rule of thumb though, when on a budget, make sure you do not buy an expensive graphics card and then go cheap on mainboard, memory and especially CPU. I see people do this so often, thinking that GPU is what governs gaming, but this would likely result in a CPU bottleneck and your expensive GPU just sitting there almost all the time waiting for the rest of your system to catch up. Try going up a "tier" on all fronts and if you can't afford that, simply step it down a notch on all fronts and fill out the rest of your budget with quality of life things like extra storage space, a good keyboard, mouse, headphones, speakers, screen, you name it. You'd be far better off than going all-in on a single piece of hardware. Also, don't go for more than 600W power supply with a single GPU, it's pointless, but do try to get an 80+ gold certified one, the efficiency is worth it. Furthermore, do NOT overclock unless you know what you're doing and you know your system's cooling can handle it. The differences are small and highly risky if done improperly. Yes, hardware these days have built-in safety switches and will "throttle down" when temps get critical, but just don't risk it please. I could go on for weeks but I'll leave it at this for now. Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done. Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more. 'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league. Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave. Last edited by Xavathos#5130 on Jun 10, 2020, 11:58:41 AM
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Oh, this should be good.
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4GB is fine for now. Don't buy a 8GB card thinking you can use it for 4K gaming. On your budget you can't afford a powerful enough card.
As for comparisions. Have a look at this Tom's Hardware GPU hiearchy As your on a tight budget you are unlikely to replace the GPU anytime soom I would go with the RX580. It's an older AMD card and doesn't suffer from the problems that the newer Navi based cards have. If you can afford to spend more than the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super - although it's a lot more than a RX580. Last edited by Rolfil#3477 on Jun 10, 2020, 12:17:37 PM
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" Thanks for the detailed reply. Where I live, my budget of 200 dollars, gets me a GTX1650 super, a 5500 XT or an RX580. From what I have read, any of those will be fine with the proposed motherboard (B450/B550) and Ryzen 3 3300x. I just wasn't sure whether it was important to get the 580 with the extra vram. As I don't plan on going 4k and play PoE at 1080p it seems 4Gb of vram will be enough, at lease for the foreseeable future. Probably better to buy one of the newer cards. |
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" Thanks for the reply. I wish I could afford the 1660 super but is almost 100 dollars more than the other cards I mentioned. I don't have any ideas about playing 4k games, just PoE, it's all I have time for. Thanks for the link. |
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I advise you to see the ratio of the multi score to the CPU value here;
https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench-r20-scores-updated-results/ And I advise you to see the ratio of the score to GPU value here; https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/best-gpus?_ga=2.153894526.7933389.1591499594-1051144263.1591499594 My CPU Multi Score its 870 score, that's why my PoE has a 50 FPS. My video card have 2392 score, that's why runs the game using 72% of the GPU Advise you to get a CPU with 1800 ~ 2200 score And a GPU around 2300 score You just  need to query the value of each CPU / GPU which is proportionally cheaperSorry if I said a wrong word in English  📦 https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/rhzfyj/please_ggg_allow_master_missions_be_traded_with/ ✅ https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/paymx2/suggestion_stack_on_map_device_so_you_just_put/ Last edited by GnomoCS#1570 on Jun 10, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
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" Thanks for the links. According to those charts, the proposed CPU is 2597. I would have bought a 2600x but I can't get one now. That would have been 3048. The proposed GPUs are all quite close: 5500XT - 4806 GTX1650S - 4735 RX580 - 4387 I'd need to compare those figures with performance in games. I wish there were a PoE benchmark feature... |
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Ask this question in something like LTT forum or Tom's Hardware forum, you will get proper suggestions from people who actually know what they are talking about. Never ask things like these on random game forum, or you will end up with ''8gb vram is required, 4 is low'' which for most budged builds is an idiotic statement.
Your best bet is Tom's Hardware, those forums are full of tech geeks that have been around computers for decades, and will answer in detail to any question you have. P.S. never buy hardware for a specific game, that's an awful way to go about it. No rest for the wicked. Last edited by Daiena#7638 on Jun 10, 2020, 11:07:25 PM
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