Cold Conduction Cluster Jewel Notable Clarification

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2ndPerk wrote:
This implies that the source of the chill/shock is the notable, not the hit that caused the other.
The source of the "extra" ailment is you, not the hit. If it were the hit it would frequently do nothing because it would then still be dependant on the hit dealing the correct type of damage to determine the strength of the ailment.

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2ndPerk wrote:
when a mob is frozen, it counts as chilled
No. It is not the case that being frozen makes you count as also being chilled. Being chilled makes you count as being chilled.

Usually, things that get frozen also get chilled by the same hit, because usually chill and freeze are caused by the same damage type, and chill is always applied by hits that deal enough of that damage. So a hit that freezes will also chill. This is just a thing that happens, not a requirement for freezing.

By using The Three Dragons, you are explicitly changing that interaction so that freezing is instead caused by lightning damage, and not by cold damage. The Three Dragons doesn't make lightning damage able to chill, only to freeze. It does also make cold damage unable to freeze. So your hits with lightning damage will be able to freeze but not chill. Without something to give some other damage type the ability to chill, you can't chill with hits at all with The Three Dragons, because it removes that capability from cold damage, and doesn't grant it to any other damage type.

Last edited by Mark_GGG on Mar 15, 2020, 8:13:17 PM
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2ndPerk wrote:
Given this, is it correct that hits that cannot normally cause the shock ailment, eg Herald of Thunder, will be able to indirectly cause shock if they were somehow able to chill?
Yes

EDIT: I misrembered the exact nature of the modifier on Heral of Thunder. It is not limited to only preventing shock from hits.

The shock in this case is not caused by the hit, it is caused by the chill. It thus comes from the same skill as the chill, just not from the hit. Since Herald of Thunder cannot shock at all, not just with hits, this will still prevent that shock.
Last edited by Mark_GGG on Mar 22, 2020, 7:48:35 PM
I was incorrect and have edited my post.

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