If you are not using a META build, you can't play endgame AT ALL
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This is starting to become a real ISSUE!
If you are not summoner or saboteur, you'll never be able to handle red maps and end game GGG balance moto is to focus on META shifts So if you are like me and like to play something different, you'll have a hard time killing stuff in Metamorph I tried dual void battery freezing pulse, my tooltip shows 400k DPS when i have all 9 power charges, good for mapping, but for boss damage is a JOKE, he one or 3 shot me For metamorph? LOL, you better no do them at all Before that i experimented a little bit with winter orb, let me tell you one thing, don't bother trying to waste your time playing a build you enjoy you'll be better following the META shifts, or you'l be poor the whole league Last bumped on Feb 3, 2020, 8:37:17 AM
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The worst thing is this league wants you to kill bosses, but you can't with a normal off-META build!!
GGG balence the game based on the META builds, this is why powercreep increase every league, because of their META shifts What happens is the normal builds get nerfed league after league as a side effect THIS SUCKS!!!!! Last edited by ryuukk33#4998 on Jan 26, 2020, 9:21:37 AM
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Playing a weaker build myself this time around... and it's frustrating. The problem is that "new" = "harder" in GGG's mindset. I do fine against regular bosses and content, but the new conquerors and their "pop up and spew death on you" minions are not fun. Hard to avoid too, since you're pretty much stuck in white maps until you defeat them.
The problem GGG faces is that they have to design a game that keeps players from getting bored, and keeps players from getting frustrated. With the current division between the haves and the havenots as extreme as it is, they really can't. PoE is a game that's too difficult right up to the point where it becomes too easy. They need to fix that. |
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Correct op, just respect the holy nerf hammer and move on.
Every league skills and items get GGG’d....KABAAAM! |
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Playing a Staff ground slam gladiator, pretty damn far from meta. Can do tier 15 rare maps including metamorphs rather safe.
Tier 16 is a bit riskier but still viable. Juat recently facetanked minotaur. Got recked by Sirus and Uber Atziri. But will give it another go some day. I don't mind some more difficulty, but with that said I do agree GGG haven't really thought through things. The majority of builds reach 300k to 1 mill DPS. Then there are a few builds with like 20x that dmg. Or builds that just lets you sit back and steamroll content while minions does all the work. And you can do it for a minimum cost investment... Fun. Last edited by WickedSausage#2727 on Jan 26, 2020, 10:05:02 AM
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You are using "Meta" to mean "popular". The OP is using it more like you're using the term "viable".
The viability of a build that's not popular isn't in question. There's lots of builds that are viable. The problem isn't that. The problem is that the difference between viable and unviable is so damn sharp. You don't have a "somewhat viable" category. Last edited by Shagsbeard#3964 on Jan 26, 2020, 10:10:48 AM
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Pretty much any skill is viable if you scale it with crit on SC, you might have to play better than a summoner but you could work with anything.
If you are in SSF, HC or HC SSF though it pretty much narrows each time how you can realistically get outside of the "best" skills. I wouldn't really use the word meta as it doesn't accurately cover that some great skills aren't popular atm but are still very viable. |
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I don't like the term either. It could mean many different things to different types of players.
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" I am not playing summoner or saboteur the whole league. I dont have problems with red maps and endgame. Maybe it's just you. It will convert your forum titles into decorative square badges that use the space next to your forum posts more economically so that you can show off an unlimited number of them at any one time. - GGG, 2018 (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3573673)
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obviously its ridiculous to think you need to play a certain build to do content.
of course some builds have a much easier time with much less investment, but this will never change. something will always stand out as "strongest". people just drastically overestimate how much dps you actually need now-a-days and such. im rolling caustic arrow with an average of probably like 900k-1m shaper dps (1.2m absolute max dps) and its completely fine. it instantly kills every mob that isn't a boss, and vs bosses its still fine dps. i've killed AL8 sirus and all guardians, elder, shaper. the hp buff is definitely noticeable on elder and shaper though, those fights take much longer, but its still completely fine. |
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