@Lutbot macro set confirmed by Zizaran in his latest video - [GGG replied as GREY AREA]

Can we get this answer, some of use care about our MTX investments and accounts and being part of the GGG community. I really don't want to risk my account.
So my only macro i want to use is is ALT+F4 with AHK tool.

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Farystar wrote:

I found this @lutbot macro optimized for POE. Looks very nice,all the things you actually need. <3

http://lutbot.com/#/

So far confirmed as SAFE TO USE from Zizaran, which he recommends

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codetaku wrote:

They have clearly established rules on macro usage and have a standing policy to not comment on individual 3rd-party macro offerings, ever.

You have to figure this shit out, yourself.

(and it's really fucking easy to do so)

Well i just want, that we are all united in this someday. I think Chris is also using the logout Macro.

ZIZ on LOGOUT MACRO USE

Best regards, Fary :)

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jlh165 wrote:

Sure a logout macro can be used to cheat death...but so can a well placed portal. If the servers were better, maybe GGG could do away with allowing them, but as Chris said it’s hard to change something like that without a community uproar. No one wants to die because the servers lag.

Also keep in mind how the macro logs you out will depend on whether or not it’s legal. Alt + F4 for example is 2 server side actions (different from typing in chat). I won’t even go into how bad “press escape > move cursor to logout > left mouse click” is. I think it’s the TCP logout that only performs 1 server side action.

Here's an official statement that might be helpful: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/473902/filter-account-type/staff

In addition to the "one server-side action per button press" rule, automation of any kind is against the rules. This means that each macro must be activated by a button press; you can't e.g. have a setup that scrapes the screen and uses a potion or activates a skill when it sees your life orb going down. Your macro also cannot conditionally perform actions or select between multiple actions, so you can't set up a rotation macro that uses a different flask every time you activate it, or that only uses a flask if you're low on life.

I agree that since this is a complicated and weighty issue, a detailed official FAQ pinned in a forum would be very welcome.

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ekaye wrote:

Here's an official statement that might be helpful: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/473902/filter-account-type/staff

In addition to the "one server-side action per button press" rule, automation of any kind is against the rules. This means that each macro must be activated by a button press; you can't e.g. have a setup that scrapes the screen and uses a potion or activates a skill when it sees your life orb going down. Your macro also cannot conditionally perform actions or select between multiple actions, so you can't set up a rotation macro that uses a different flask every time you activate it, or that only uses a flask if you're low on life.

I agree that since this is a complicated and weighty issue, a detailed official FAQ pinned in a forum would be very welcome.

Thank you kind sir. I was aware of flask macro, which use to be a problem. I am not sure about all those trade macros though.

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jlh165 wrote:

Sure a logout macro can be used to cheat death...but so can a well placed portal. If the servers were better, maybe GGG could do away with allowing them, but as Chris said it’s hard to change something like that without a community uproar. No one wants to die because the servers lag.

Also keep in mind how the macro logs you out will depend on whether or not it’s legal. Alt + F4 for example is 2 server side actions (different from typing in chat). I won’t even go into how bad “press escape > move cursor to logout > left mouse click” is. I think it’s the TCP logout that only performs 1 server side action.

Check out Sarno’s Macro Guide. It’s probably the closest you’ll get. For anything specific, always email support@grindinggear.com.

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jlh165 wrote:

Check out Sarno’s Macro Guide. It’s probably the closest you’ll get. For anything specific, always email support@grindinggear.com.

Thank you, yeah i also found 1 amazing guide, but i have it stored on Pc...currently away on the phone. Ill probably post tommorow when i get to the computer.

just wondering here how can they even find out? xD

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satanttin wrote:

just wondering here how can they even find out? xD

I think the best answer would be unless someone reports you i dont think they would find out :P

Also i dont really get that your allowed to use macros but not x macro... you either can use macros or you cannot

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jlh165 wrote:

Check out Sarno’s Macro Guide. It’s probably the closest you’ll get. For anything specific, always email support@grindinggear.com.

You cite such a useful guide, and yet, if even after reading it you still (apparently) don't understand what a "server-side action" is, you're helpless as to knowing what to do with it....

The server does not capture your keyboard and mouse input. That would just be ridiculous. Alt+F4 is not two server-side actions (it's arguably either zero or one, but even if taken as 0, it does trigger a server-side action on program cleanup so it's safest to think of it as 1). Opening the menu with escape, moving your mouse to the "log out" button, and then clicking five times in rapid succession is also only 1 server side action (as long as you successfully opened the menu... if you actually had a menu open first, then used this macro, it'd instead escape from the menu and then click five times near the center of your screen which would definitely send server commands), because the only thing the server receives is a command to log out.

You are imagining the server having access to everything your machine does. But that's not how software works. The client and the server are not the same thing. The client picks and chooses what to sent to the server. Opening your inventory or any other menu in the entire game except your stash (which needs to be retrieved live) does not interact with the server. Clicking on a portal scroll (whether to use it or to pick it up on your cursor) does interact with the server.

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Lynerus wrote:

Also i dont really get that your allowed to use macros but not x macro... you either can use macros or you cannot

The rule is pretty simple. You can't use macros that look like macros to the server. But the client doesn't keep track, so you can use macros that only perform multiple client actions as long as they do not need to contact the server multiple times to do so.

It's not so much "you can use some macros" as "GGG acknowledges that some macros are completely undetectable, so it has no choice but to admit that such macros are allowed"


Farystar, this topic is pointless as this question has been answered many times, all in the exact same way every time. If you don't understand after all past explanations, that doesn't mean you should make a new topic asking the exact same question, it means you should focus in more as to why you don't understand all of those past very, very clear answers. Once your underlying knowledge is filled in, the previous answers will just make sense.

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satanttin wrote:

just wondering here how can they even find out? xD

Macros that aren't realistic such as activating all your flasks and 3 abilities at the exact same time could be logged by the server, but you can just add a like .25s pause in between actions and it probably couldn't tell.