Need Help upgrading my PC Hardware for 3.9/2 wise (ENG/GER)

Heya!

As GGG dropped the older DirectX Support I did a real rough PC upgrade.
My current Setup looks like this:


GIGABYTE B450M S2H

AMD Ryzen 3 2200G

G.Skill DIMM 16 GB DDR4-3000 (2x8)

ZOTAC GeForce GT 710 ZONE Edition

Corsair VS350 350W

120 GB SSD for Win 10 and PoE alone


With this the Game is running. But thats pretty much it. Lowest setting and roughly 20 FPS max with rare occasions going to 25.

The Main Issue is the Graphiccard running almost always on 100%. CPU is runnning at 65% most of the time. 90% in high end density maps. RAM is rarely over 55%.

I can not select max settings without the game kicking me btw^^

So Graphic and CPU is what I should upgrade, right?

I have a slight Budget of 350-400€

Im considering the following upgrades. Accrding to my reseach, I should be able to use it without needing to upgrade anything else. But im not good at this stuff so a few other opinions would be awesome! =)

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (195€)

MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Gaming X 4G (160€)
or
MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Gaming X 4G (170€)





Anyone any clue if I could run the Game with that at nearly max settings? or at least close to it? IF im not wrong im good above the recommended specs but again, Tech noob here.^^
And what about the future predictions? Am I set with this for 1-2 years or so at least?

Any input or advises for something would be grately appreciated!!!

Cheers!

looks like that stuff would work, but you might be tight on your PSU. only 350w ehhhhhhhh

but from the given info everything seems compatible given your PSU has a 1x 6-pin power connector for the 1650 (better than 1050 ti)

however, i'd say you wouldn't be able to run the game at max settings with that setup. like not with AA and all that, but ya mostly should be good. its hard to say what settings you could have etc because of how much this game varies in frame rate anyway.

as for future proof. i'd say that isn't future proof at all. maybe for a year, but it would really only be getting you slightly current. you'd just be upgrading to very average todays standards only

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xMustard wrote:

looks like that stuff would work, but you might be tight on your PSU. only 350w ehhhhhhhh

but from the given info everything seems compatible given your PSU has a 1x 6-pin power connector for the 1650 (better than 1050 ti)

however, i'd say you wouldn't be able to run the game at max settings with that setup. like not with AA and all that, but ya mostly should be good. its hard to say what settings you could have etc because of how much this game varies in frame rate anyway.

as for future proof. i'd say that isn't future proof at all. maybe for a year, but it would really only be getting you slightly current. you'd just be upgrading to very average todays standards only

The PSU has a 1x 6+2-Pin. Thats good enough, right?


I guess im more then happy if I could run the game in 30 FPS without Dynamic Resolution active...
And maybe with some effect not beeing on lowest setting.

Any Game related Issues aside that happen in the known tight spots

What would you suggest to upgrade as well to be more future save?

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I think a ryzen 2600 with a bigger graphic card would be better.
I have a ryzen 2600 and a gtx 1080 that i bough used.

The gtx 1080 needs 210w at 100%.
The ryzen 2600 at 100% all cores would need 150w
(but i don't see my cpu above 20% in POE)

The ryzen 2700x at 100% all cores needs 210w


The gtx 1650 is wayyy better than the 1050ti (36% better)
The 1050ti needs 60w
The 1650 needs 100-105w
the 1660 needs 110-124w (and it has 6Gb of ram!)


=> So a ryzen 2600 with a gtx1660 would need 274w during a heavy benchmark but a lot less in game (at least for the cpu). This only accounts for CPU/GPU power.

=> Perhaps buy the graphic card first, and see where your cpu gets in usage.

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MrVaad wrote:

I think a ryzen 2600 with a bigger graphic card would be better.
I have a ryzen 2600 and a gtx 1080 that i bough used.

The gtx 1080 needs 210w at 100%.
The ryzen 2600 at 100% all cores would need 150w
(but i don't see my cpu above 20% in POE)

The ryzen 2700x at 100% all cores needs 210w


The gtx 1650 is wayyy better than the 1050ti (36% better)
The 1050ti needs 60w
The 1650 needs 100-105w
the 1660 needs 110-124w


=> So a ryzen 2600 with a gtx1660 would need 274w during a heavy benchmark but a lot less in game (at least for the cpu). This only accounts for CPU/GPU power.

=> Perhaps buy the graphic card first, and see where your cpu gets in usage.

Mhm, so CPU wise, a Ryzen 2600 6 Core. Right?

And lol good call to buy a Graphic first. Will do!

a GTX 1660 is around 200-220€ bucks.
the Ryzens I found are around 110-120.

Definitly looks interesting! Thx so far!

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elesham4ever wrote:

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The Main Issue is the Graphiccard running almost always on 100%.

A GPU with 100% load is normal because the video card is always aiming to produce the best result. When a GPU runs at less than 100% its due to fps caps, hardware/software bottlenecks, or because the game is just so old no possible output can be generated that would work at 100% usage.

Do not listen to this. it's false.
The best result a GPU can produce is to push out the closest amount of frames per second within closest possible margin monitor's refresh rate can support, pushing anything past that is basically a wasteful stress on your hardware since all that will happen is screen tearing at best.

In most scenarios if you have - say - 144 mhz panel, pushing anything past that will be useless, that's why vsync exists, and it's also the main reason we can play older games that can push twice the refresh rate's frames if allowed to, and won't burn up because it won't draw more frames than necessary.

Having your GPU at 100% load at all times in any game, old or new is never good.
On a demanding title, having 100% load means your GPU is lacking power, on older title having 100% load means you are essentially burning your card for no reason.

I have a rtx 2060 super oc running a 144hz 1080p panel, there are few titles that /sometimes/ reach 100% load because i have vync enabled, so my gpu never has to work harder than it needs to draw the amount of frames my monitor needs.

Just google for ''Startcraft 2 melting graphics cards'' it's a perfect example of the outcome you will eventually have if you will run title that requires nowhere near your video card's horse power, and let it draw as many frames per second as it wants.

Don't give out tips about things you clearly have no clue about.

P.S. go to tom's hardware dot com for tips on PC parts and possible upgrades, asking in random game's forums for such suggestions is an exercise in futility because it's basically the youtube's equivalent of everyone in comments being a rocket scientist because that's what the video is about.
You just had a guy claiming that your video card should basically run at maximum load at all times as long as there's any game running.

The thing is, any bigger combo (CPU/GPU) and you would need to replace the power supply (60-70€ for a good 500-600w)

Of course, POE won't stress your computer at 100% on CPU and GPU.
But using a power supply that cannot support your hardware at 90-100% is not a good idea.

If you're not afraid, you can buy the ryzen used. With AMD producing so many CPUs, there's a lot of them to buy used (that's what i did :)

Thanks folks!

I think I will get me a gtx 1650 or 1660 and look with it how my CPU is holding up.

Thx so far! =)

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