Single player please :|

Just asking why isn't there a single player mode so that one can have fun with this game regardless of how much internet connection sucks? I can understand why SSF isn't single player since it can merge in online leagues and cheaters are behind the corner.
But why not have a Single Player mode which is managed locally, cannot merge in online leagues, doesn't count towards league challenges or leaderboards and so on?

Or, goodness forbid, GGG falls apart and the game can no longer be supported. There's always that one lingering fear when it comes to "always online" games.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

Or, goodness forbid, GGG falls apart and the game can no longer be supported. There's always that one lingering fear when it comes to "always online" games.

I want to think that won't happen, but yeah it's another reason to want a single player mode. After all poe is already mostly single player anyway. Online single player

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Itasil_ wrote:

poe is already mostly single player anyway. Online single player

Only if you choose to play it that way...

If theres a standalone poe tgat means all the games resourses can be seen and edited and created a lot of cheat stuff for online version

So wont happen

Just look at the grim dawn, its online but all the resourses are srored on the pc and you can edit wht you want

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The_Great_Alex wrote:

If theres a standalone poe tgat means all the games resourses can be seen and edited and created a lot of cheat stuff for online version

So wont happen

Just look at the grim dawn, its online but all the resourses are srored on the pc and you can edit wht you want

Hence why the majority of stuff is handled server-side in PoE, this alleviates that issue.

The only reason not to make a single-player version is pure marketing, the effort to give people enough code to create a stand-alone version doesn't take a lot of effort.

Also PoE wouldn't be the first online-only game to go this way, 'Wurm Online' has done that already via 'Wurm Unlimited', that game has not a single issue with cheaters despite it, so it's a weak argument.

It can be done... just isn't done, I would gladly pay for a single-player version.

Also it provides upsides, allowing people to run their own small server means that mods will come into existence, those mods can then be valuated by GGG and implemented in their own form into the core-game, saving resources while increasing the quality of their game.

Ok i think you know better

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Kulze wrote:

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The_Great_Alex wrote:

Also it provides upsides, allowing people to run their own small server means that mods will come into existence, those mods can then be valuated by GGG and implemented in their own form into the core-game, saving resources while increasing the quality of their game.

You forgot the biggest benefit, and the reason i made this post, which is you can't die because of lag in offline single player xD
Put yeah i wouldn't mind private servers with mods, mods make games a lot more interesting

server side code is their holy grail. if somebody got their hands on the elf binary and it get's disassembled we will get hacks and exploits in notime.

from the code side of view it's likely easy to make a offline version, just attach a database to the gameserver which would normally located on the realm servers and you're fine.

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Kulze wrote:

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The_Great_Alex wrote:

If theres a standalone poe tgat means all the games resourses can be seen and edited and created a lot of cheat stuff for online version

So wont happen

Just look at the grim dawn, its online but all the resourses are srored on the pc and you can edit wht you want

Hence why the majority of stuff is handled server-side in PoE, this alleviates that issue.

The only reason not to make a single-player version is pure marketing, the effort to give people enough code to create a stand-alone version doesn't take a lot of effort.

Also PoE wouldn't be the first online-only game to go this way, 'Wurm Online' has done that already via 'Wurm Unlimited', that game has not a single issue with cheaters despite it, so it's a weak argument.

It can be done... just isn't done, I would gladly pay for a single-player version.

Also it provides upsides, allowing people to run their own small server means that mods will come into existence, those mods can then be valuated by GGG and implemented in their own form into the core-game, saving resources while increasing the quality of their game.

Wurm isn't a great comparison, as it's a Java game. Grim Dawn also isn't a great comparison, as it was designed as a primarily single-player game to begin with. Multiplayer and mod support were added on later to the foundation that was already there waiting for them.

It's a whole different animal when you're dealing with a custom in-house engine for a game that was always designed to be online-only. Nearly everything that happens in the game ties in to the servers in some way.

It would take far more work than you might realize to rip it apart and isolate it into a single-player package or even open it up to outside servers and modding. It would be nearly on the level of making an entirely new game.

And even if they charged for it, they would lose money. They most likely wouldn't make enough back to recover the costs of doing it, and they would also have less income flowing in to the original.