ES leech: Am i extremely "overleeching"?

Hi,

I took both ES leech clusters in the witch area today, and put the Energy Leech support into my 6L... Now I have these stats in the toolbox, and I think I might have a problem, but am not sure:



So if I read this correctly, I am leeching 4.5% of my cold damage now. The toolbox DPS of my freezing pulse (I know its not really correct, but roughly?) says 120k DPS. So if after resistances I do, lets say, 100k DPS, this would leech 4.5k per second, but my limit is around 1.7k.

Is it still worth it to leech this much in order to gain after I stop doing damage? Or do I have to take Ghost reaver to make this worthwhile?

I guess I have to reach the notable skills in the clusters, so if I want to reduce my leech since its too much, I could save 1 skill point in one of the clusters, or take the leech support out?


Thanks for any advice!

I did some more thinking:

Does this mean that right now I could leech up to 17% of my ES per second (Base max recovery + 70%), but am capped at 15% Maximum total recovery?

And if I take Ghost Reaver, my maximum total recovery would go to 30%, but I could still only leech 17%, since I only have +70% "Energy shield leech total recovery per second modifier"?

Does that mean Ghost Reaver would only really help me if I get leech modifier from life nodes as well?


Or am I understanding this wrong?

Ok, I watched some youtube video and understand the leeching mechanics better now I think.

Now my questions is: If I want to use leech only as a complement to recharge and not take Ghost Reaver, is it worth investing all those skillpoints (15% of ES max leech), or should I simply put in the Energy Leech Support, be happy with the 10% leech I can get then, and use those 7 skillpoints to boost my ES base value? 7 Skillpoints feels a lot for 5% more leech...

Right now my tree looks like this + Energy Leech support:

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAAFvAuMFQgelDXwPxBBYEQ8RUBV-FvMXVBhqGnIbJR0UHU8d2R8CHxgigSL0JV8mPCepKgssnCy_L50v1jI0M7A1uTbFOVI7DTt8PexBlkNUSVFJsUmyS65MLVBCUXRR-1IpUzVV4FZKWAdYMVhaXGtd8mS9adhqG2wLbRlwUn5ZfqF_xoIQhEiIQonTi3qMNo48jmSO6Y9Gj_qSdJMnlQSboZ6hoS-io6aZpyuo6qlArJivm7QMtvq4yrmTug67_L2CvorBxcMJw23G98gTytPNFtD118_ZW9-K37Di9-kC6TPquuv17BjviO_r8NXyHfRx96b31_k3?accountName=E_Zann&realm=pc&characterName=IraHunt

The base maximum recovery rate for ES leech is 10% of your ES pool / sec.
It can be modified by taking increased maximum total recovery per sec from ES leech (max 50%) and by taking Ghost Reaver (it doubles that number).

If I undestand it correctly you can reach up to 30% of your ES pool as leech / sec (with 50% modifiers + GR).

According to your tree you have 15% maximum ES leech rate per sec (10% base + 50% modifiers)

You could double that number to 30% by taking GR but loose 50% of recharge possibility.
I don´t think it´s worth taking GR for Occultist with Wicked Ward allocated (you have also Watcher´s Eye and rings which affect recharging mechanic) as you have already mentioned.

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E_Zann wrote:

Now my questions is: If I want to use leech only as a complement to recharge and not take Ghost Reaver, is it worth investing all those skillpoints (15% of ES max leech), or should I simply put in the Energy Leech Support, be happy with the 10% leech I can get then, and use those 7 skillpoints to boost my ES base value? 7 Skillpoints feels a lot for 5% more leech...

I think it´s a good idea. ES leeech support is super strong and should be enough for 10% leech rate cap.

If you get more total ES your total ES leeched / sec should be also improved.

edit: thanks you answered the next question already mainly. but is that also true for bosses which I might not hit that regularly because I have to evade and stuff?


ok thanks! that's in line with how I think I understood it now.

Now I am just wondering if those 7 skill points i used are worth it? could I simply only use the energy leech support (which gives enough % es leeched I guess?) and be happy with the 10/ max leech I get then? Use those skill points to boost my base shield? Or would that option be much worse overall?

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E_Zann wrote:

Now I am just wondering if those 7 skill points i used are worth it? could I simply only use the energy leech support (which gives enough % es leeched I guess?) and be happy with the 10/ max leech I get then? Use those skill points to boost my base shield? Or would that option be much worse overall?

I would drop them and invest them somewhere else. ES leech support should be more than enough for ES leech in your case (ES leech gem is rather BiS for any ES leech build).

You can either invest these points to more ES or there are also new interesting nodes such as Arcane Swiftness (worth taking with Rumi´s flask especially).

just tip:
I would probably invest to Arcane Swiftness, Soul Thief and maybe Resourcefulness (Lethal Assault, socket nearby or Path of the Savant are also good alternatives).

Thanks a lot for the input, appreciate that!

Arcane Swiftness was a good tip, invested 3 points into that, 2 points for mana and regen which I needed, and 2 points into more ES. Will test a bit how this works out now.

Since you're CI, get Ghost Reaver, that bumps it to 30% of max ES per second.