170 dmg nerf to ice nova???

Was that really necessary??? Fuk guys

The CoC build you played in Betrayal is the exact, and only, reason it was nerfed. A spell which I've always loved and I was hoping would be usable after their "hand casting" changes is one of the hardest hit because of a niche CoC build.

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ExcretusMaximus wrote:

The CoC build you played in Betrayal is the exact, and only, reason it was nerfed. A spell which I've always loved and I was hoping would be usable after their "hand casting" changes is one of the hardest hit because of a niche CoC build.

The main reason for all of this is the shitty interaction with frostbolt.
No one uses it. No one wants to use it. The only time it's been used is in a broken CoC build...

Like, why? Why not just remove the interaction and buff ice nova for hand casting? I don't get it... Have you guys ever seen anyone actually casting ice nova on top of frostbolt? Because I haven't.

I was really hoping that they would make this skill a good self cast skill to be used alone... But oh well, I guess shock nova is still there AND has actually been buffed.

Don't worry... in a few weeks you'll discover some other broken interaction that you can exploit to make a laugh.

I was absolutely baffled about changes after the hand casting manifesto. I assumed they would be addressing hand casting vs indirect casting. Imo the whole point was to Nerf the latter (where needed) and buff the former everywhere. Nope.

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ladish wrote:

I assumed they would be addressing hand casting vs indirect casting.

At least in this instance they kinda did, more cast speed and less damage per hit means the selfcast dps is similar but using it feels better, and it got nerfed for triggering. Quite a few other changes were a bit suspect but I don't see anything wrong with this one.

Replace ice Nova with shock nova, GG, you now have more gitgud.

Someone clearly didn't see the ice nova builds that killed guardians in less than one second :P

Again the point being that a Nerf to the base skill ice Nova because of broken indirect casting and broken interaction with indirect frostbolt casting seems backwards in the context of a "hand casting" meta rebalance. Woods for the trees, people.

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Ringcycle wrote:

Replace ice Nova with shock nova, GG, you now have more gitgud.

Shock Nova's dead zone makes it an unattractive skill that feels clunky to use, especially when compared to most other skills in the game.