Chaos Inoculation (even more) useless for rich players with new unique chest?

The new unique chest allows you to essentially take CI without losing your HP.

While you do still take chaos damage (to your ES) you fact that you don't lose your HP which allow you to run 3-4 40% auras on it (3 with reduced mana, 4 with reduced mana + marauder nodes), get the Pain Attunement and other low life bonuses for free AND if that wasn't enough, it makes Righteous Fire both useable and extremely cheap due to low max hp.

The only reason to take CI given these facts is if you can't afford the new unique, and while that will be the case for many players almost everyone will use this chest endgame if they want to use ES.

not taking any chaos damage is different than having that damage apply to shield before life.

CI is immunity.

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d1ck_richard wrote:

not taking any chaos damage is different than having that damage apply to shield before life.

CI is immunity.

Immunity against a certain type of damage isn't really useful if that type of damage isn't more dangerous than other types of damage. On my HP characters I'm fine soloing maps even above my level with -60% Chaos Resistance so you shouldn't have any problems if you're heavy ES and it applies to your ES instead.

Not taking CI comes at lots of advantages though. You can run Righteous Fire for massively increased spell damage (+80% and more total damage, not added damage, since it's more damage, not increased damage). You can run additional auras (and at the same time low HP builds). You generally have a higher effective HP (since your HP pool, no matter how small it is, still provides a small puffer for when your ES is down).

On my Frost Witch for example I could do way more than double the damage (Righteous Fire /w Inner Force specced + Pain Attunement) and get an additional Purity Aura when wearing the unique chest and speccing out of CI. Purity Aura alone already allows you to regear 33% all resistances (level 17 + Inner Force) into possibly chaos resistance while also increasing your max elemental resistances. Thus that aura alone can arguably match the bonus of being immune to chaos damage (instead of taking it on your ES) already.

chaos damage over time maps are ignored by ES-users.
with this chest you will get the damage to the shield and never get a shield regeneration on the normal way. you would have to rely on lifeleech with es conversion or hp reg with es conversion. low reg on a lot of maps.
i would love the dmg proc on my lightning witch and the bonus auras though.

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Almornik wrote:

chaos damage over time maps are ignored by ES-users.
with this chest you will get the damage to the shield and never get a shield regeneration on the normal way. you would have to rely on lifeleech with es conversion or hp reg with es conversion. low reg on a lot of maps.
i would love the dmg proc on my lightning witch and the bonus auras though.

You can avoid the problems with that by taking Zealot's Oath or Ghost Reaver + Life Leech quite easily though.

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HiddenoO wrote:

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d1ck_richard wrote:

not taking any chaos damage is different than having that damage apply to shield before life.

CI is immunity.

Not taking CI comes at lots of advantages though. You can run Righteous Fire for massively increased spell damage (+80% and more total damage, not added damage, since it's more damage, not increased damage).

Pain Attunement and reserved life for additional auras is fine ! but with a small life pool and even 80% fire res + flask you are not able to maintain righteous fire very long cause your life is reserved too... or am i missing something?

i am playing a ci cold crit witch with 6,3k es... the new chest invites me for testing stuff and so on but i am not sure if the advantages of the chest are in every case bigger than the advantages of having ci

Op is completely right guys. This game is essentially about shifting stats around to get the most net benefit. Transferring Chaos damage to your ES essentially gives you an entire pool of resources to use for skills (auras) that would cost half an entire char's worth of passive nodes to actually get. The icing on the cake is that Righteous Fire also becomes usable, which is a HUGE DPS boost in itself.

Honestly, I expect this chest to be nerfed or skill interactions with it to be changed.

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Terrornoid wrote:

The icing on the cake is that Righteous Fire also becomes usable, which is a HUGE DPS boost in itself.

But how effective can it be used is the question.
if you reserves life for auras with blood magic and your life pool is small you can probably maintain righteous fire 2 seconds or something.
if you have a huge hp pool and you have taken a lot hp nodes, than your es isnt that high i guess... if you use than righteous fire and some chaos damage stuff is thrown on you and your es is burnt down you can get in serious trouble with your remaining 1 life ...

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Hulio225 wrote:

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Terrornoid wrote:

The icing on the cake is that Righteous Fire also becomes usable, which is a HUGE DPS boost in itself.

But how effective can it be used is the question.
if you reserves life for auras with blood magic and your life pool is small you can probably maintain righteous fire 2 seconds or something.
if you have a huge hp pool and you have taken a lot hp nodes, than your es isnt that high i guess... if you use than righteous fire and some chaos damage stuff is thrown on you and your es is burnt down you can get in serious trouble with your remaining 1 life ...

Since righteous fire eats through ES first, and the damage is affected by your resists, it can be used incredibly effectively with a high ES character. Righteous fire, with that chest, becomes a massive damage boost at very low cost.

Hell, Invalesco has an entire RF build centered around having energy shield regen that outpaces RF's damage. This chest just makes that build more amazing, and he's running that one in HC.

ah yes your right thats what i forgott that rf eats es first xD
yes this chest is amazing in terms of boosting damage with stuff like that