Assasin (Dagger/Evasion/Dodge)

Hi,

I am experimenting with the data found on site and while i have no access to the game I decided to tinker around. Thinking also that this is not the best char to start out with (cmon...items, just get fire sor- i mean witch with item drop skills i guess), but i like to think far ahead (PvP).

Without further adue here is the link (110):
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAQIBAhMrUQUJyBoF3NO9BzzdUAjbctcJFTk4C-qvcw0xJ5wN8GAFDxIfmxCa5X0Wwlf8Fs0jlBd-l-IZPGR1Ge2egByJZrEdCl1LISPJfCUhCTcv8f3vMN4E-zNfh50zgUS2NQEndjnagDI7zVwiPAUWnEFFPBhCJVkLQ3wJDkm2H21LEvqpTLzIQVJZeclTJXBTU0q5nFTotllXb9w-V_Irxli1P09Y8WilWuNecl0xkvZeM2g9YLUzoWNqPDJkplC0Zafuymi_FtZphWzcahqa9moi67xri_hAbyUUr2-NjTNv0yexb-4ABHUqkzV1u12hdigTz3u-Y6l9nhYmyCP0YO_wJmfjo2e_v1I5rtSTE3jpbwx94aRv2Mc_0KTNNdw31YTeRdW4xu7egRQF7x4SX6SYTeLCQPWir1KUZtEssaehYXeMsZxmNrv2Wl-ys5EDzO1P1ZDwN92_gvGujCqIdpY6prSB3V0233Rl-6NcMDbcBOz-63RWQakKfzyxV4zV_bT8eZb9b7bgwRcgzfwFMvcjILm2RguQ99oE5tVHwQeMPPm_hzM_ap24Mw6r4DIV8a2M85jDCPe-guiL

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAQIBAhMrUQXc070I23LXCRU5OAvqr3MNMSecDfBgBQ8SH5sQmuV9FsJX_BbNI5QXfpfiGe2egB0KXUslIQk3L_H97zDeBPszgUS2NQEndjwFFpxCJVkLQ3wJDkm2H21LEvqpTLzIQVJZeclTSrmcVOi2WVdv3D5Y8WilWuNecl0xkvZeM2g9YLUzoWNqPDJkplC0Zafuymi_FtZphWzcahqa9moi67xvjY0zb9MnsXUqkzV2KBPPfZ4WJsgj9GDv8CZn46Nnv79SOa7UkxN46W8MfeGkb9jHP9CkzTXcN9WE3kXvHhJfpJhN4sJA9aKvUpRm0Syxp6Fhd4yxnGY2u_ZaX7KzkQOMKoh2ljqmtIHdXTbfdGX7o1wwNtwE7P7rdFZBqQp_PLFXjNX9tPx5lv1vtqvgMhU=

I was building this with PvP in mind, after summing everything up, the person should have around 10k evasion by just using non-preffix,suffix items. 20k vs Rangers with bows.
To top it off, the guy is deadly if he lands a single crit.
I dont know about existing skills or how they work, but 45% increase in skill duration seemed insane (compare 2 guys...one with this, one without), and use some kind of slow or stun skill, if there are any...as far as skills go, i would aim for single hit burst, or some gap closers, disable, and most importantly 'silence' type of skill...this char loses vs any kind of spells or disables i guess.

Item pre/suffixes ? I guess accuracy increase, he might dodge, but then he himself lacks some aim, once he hits 95% of time, improve the crit chance/multiplier.

Attack speed ? You are an assasin...

I tried pure int/dex, he can get more dmg output on crits, but i did not find him as a good survivalist (PvP)...he might be crazy wielding dual daggers tho (vs afk enemies), but i dont know if the poison stacks and if it procs double-poison...lol

The people who have already played, is this viable build ? :D

I did not take iron reflexes, because of the dodge...cmon 24% dodge, why would you use armor or energy fields at all if you have this.

If it is viable, I will try to improve all the layout and add more in-depth description. Although this is just beta i guess...

____Some variables____

Stealth Tunic 842 (Aesthetics matter)
Swiftsteel Treads 428
Moonlight Gloves 428
Harpy Crown 643
Hunting Shield 1542

+212% Evasion rating (from passives)
+90% Evasion on shield (from passives)

In the end we get: (842 + 1785) + (428 + 907) + (428 + 907) + (643 + 1363) + (2930 + 3142) = 13375 Evasion (...hmm if I would take brigandine the number wouldnt be so charming, so it was destined to be like this).

also, vs arrows this equals to 26750 Evasion rating.

Well, this calculation is what simple logic tells me, I might not know how the game ACTUALLY handles the variables.


One observation I have from this though, only Ranger is capable of taking all evasion boosts, at least the only one who, in doing so, still can be efficient in other 'trade'.

Thanks for posting and sharing :)

I was going to start a build like this today. It might have a potencial but only practice will show how strong this theorycrafting really is.

I hope you don't give this idear up!

Yeah once i have beta access I will try this build. Been gathering some items on my witch for this kind of build. Nothing great yet. Just gear to keep me alive in hardcore ^^.

Im no expert on rangers or any class whatsoever, so my question is: does this build use a skill that can deal with multiple mobs? Leveling would be tedious and hard on your own ( atleast in hardcore).

Also, which passives would you take first? Offensive or defensive ?

i havent looked inot mutch of the melee combat but woudent duelist be better for this? i meen u still have to kill stuff

It doesn't make that much of a difference, all the classes do right now, is affect your starting position on the grid, and the Ranger has plenty of stuff for this build from the start.

Interesting, but what will happen when you DO inevitably fail an evasion roll, and you get hit? That's right, you will go down like a sack of poo, because you don't have any other defensive nodes whatsoever.

I'd consider at least putting some points into Life % nodes :) There's a Thick Skin (3 nodes) area south of the Ranger starting area.

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maxwolfie wrote:

Interesting, but what will happen when you DO inevitably fail an evasion roll, and you get hit? That's right, you will go down like a sack of poo, because you don't have any other defensive nodes whatsoever.

Pretty much this. I'm also pretty sure that your damage wont be that great. And you asked for AoE? There are no AoE skills that use daggers, so your only choice is to use spells which you don't have enough intelligence to lvl and no points spent to increase their damage.

It might work for normal and cruel but beyond that you will not have an easy time at all. I only looked at your 77 points version because 110 points would require you to be lvl 98 which is basically impossible with the highest lvl mobs at 60.

If you want a build similar to this wait for the dex/int class and instead of going full evasion spend some more points in the intelligence part for more AoE. And afaik armour is considered to be a lot better than evasion by most people because of what max mentioned. You can't dodge 100% of the time and you will get killed in 1 shot with no armor or energy shield.

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Pretty much this. I'm also pretty sure that your damage wont be that great. And you asked for AoE? There are no AoE skills that use daggers, so your only choice is to use spells which you don't have enough intelligence to lvl and no points spent to increase their damage.

It might work for normal and cruel but beyond that you will not have an easy time at all. I only looked at your 77 points version because 110 points would require you to be lvl 98 which is basically impossible with the highest lvl mobs at 60.

If you want a build similar to this wait for the dex/int class and instead of going full evasion spend some more points in the intelligence part for more AoE. And afaik armour is considered to be a lot better than evasion by most people because of what max mentioned. You can't dodge 100% of the time and you will get killed in 1 shot with no armor or energy shield.

I'm basing this off my prior PvP experience With RPG PvP.

Your missing the point. Its for PvP. It's like a sub rogue in WoW (for those that play). There is no AoE as you want to kill your target then move to the next. There is no benefit to AoE in PvP, as healers can easily heal through AoE damage with direct heals. yes leveling without AoE will be tedious but upon reaching the intended level his PvP abilities should be great.

Will definitely try, because I like doing things the hard way! :D
Best if you level a character like that passively. Slow and small steps with gear from your main!

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Apocorthy wrote:

I'm basing this off my prior PvP experience With RPG PvP.

Your missing the point. Its for PvP. It's like a sub rogue in WoW (for those that play). There is no AoE as you want to kill your target then move to the next. There is no benefit to AoE in PvP, as healers can easily heal through AoE damage with direct heals. yes leveling without AoE will be tedious but upon reaching the intended level his PvP abilities should be great.

Unfortunately, this build looks rather weak. Evasion can't be your only defense for a melee character. You will likely be one-shot by Str characters and blown up by any caster. Bow users with sufficient Dex will still probably hit you or just lay down poison clouds to shred your nonexistant Life pool. Right now it's just impossible for me to recommend Acrobatics to anyone. Ignoring shield block exacerbates your problematic defense.