Regarding 400 Atlas Objectives

I've seen a few threads regarding this challenge. While I'm still working my way through it, I wanted to share one thing I found.

Some of the threads complaining about it run along the lines of "I didn't have any objectives spawn while I was running 150 Burial Chambers" and the like, and when I first started trying to grind these out I did something similar.

I boss rushed T1 Atoll maps, about 30 of them, and didn't once proc a new Master Mission. But I also noticed that my Elder influence didn't seem to be moving much either. So, instead, I decided to try running one different map at a time.

So, one of each T1, then one of each T2 and so on until I proced a new Master Mission, then, once I completed that mission, went back to the start with the T1s. On average, I was spawning one new Master Mission every 5 maps or so, sometimes even faster.

Now, this is a very small sample size so take the next thing I say with a large pinch of salt, but there was eventually a drought of 10-15 maps at a time that seemed to get longer, the more I progressed through the day. But then, when the new day ticked over, they seemed to spawn a lot faster again. Might be odd luck purely due to sample size, but I am wondering if there's a limiter on the amount of master missions you can farm in a day.

There is absolutely no limit on the number of master missions you can spawn on your atlas in a day. What most people don't seem to understand is that YOU MUST KILL THE MAP BOSS to have your atlas roll for the chance to spawn a new master mission. Sometimes RNG is not your friend and it takes 10+ maps to spawn one. Sometimes you get one to spawn immediately after completing one on a map. For me it seems to be 5ish, no more than 8 on average. 3,200 maps to run for an achievement is a lot, but you get 4 "free" missions a day to make it easier.

edit: Not saying you didn't kill the map boss because you obviously did. Just saying people claiming zero progress on this achievement probably aren't killing map boss.

People have said that the chance for a master mission to spawn is higher if you're running higher level maps. I don't really run low maps so I can't confirm that.

I don't think anyone would argue that this achievement should've been in "Endgame Grinds" or that you should get credit for any master mission, not just atlas objective master missions. Nevertheless this achievement is very easily doable for 40/40ers unless you play exclusively SSF (I can't imagine doing endgame grinds on SSF anyways), you just started the league in the past few weeks, or you only play in groups.

I didn't mean a hard limit, I was just wondering if they became harder to spawn, the more you did it in a day, but again, that was based on a tiny sample size.

I'm not too convinced on the "higher tiers spawn more masters" thing though. For the last 100 or so master missions, I've been boss rushing T1-5 maps and often enough to be noticable, new master missions proc on the very next map after finishing the previous master mission. Though usually of the same type, in those instances.

One thing that has really helped a ton is lvling up a 2nd character in SSF, because I believe each of the 4 leagues, (Betrayal, SSF, Hardcore and SSF Hardcore) spawn 4 seperate Master Missions each day. Which means 8 a day over 4 as I did SSF as well. I didn't do HC though, because fuck HC. I've never once hit maps without dying :P

It's understandable if people aren't figuring out how to spawn them though. GGG have done a non-existent job of explaining what an Atlas Objective is or the mechanics behind them. It wasn't until I hit 50 or so that I realised that Shaper Strongholds didn't count.

/rolls around

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DiabloImmoral wrote:

There is absolutely no limit on the number of master missions you can spawn on your atlas in a day. What most people don't seem to understand is that YOU MUST KILL THE MAP BOSS to have your atlas roll for the chance to spawn a new master mission. Sometimes RNG is not your friend and it takes 10+ maps to spawn one. Sometimes you get one to spawn immediately after completing one on a map. For me it seems to be 5ish, no more than 8 on average. 3,200 maps to run for an achievement is a lot, but you get 4 "free" missions a day to make it easier.

Seriously GGG?! You expect us to have to run approx. 3200 maps to complete 1 achievement? Even if I was motivated to run 50 maps a day (and as a filthy casual I never have done) that's 64 days (over 2 months).

So GGG, you've run out of ideas for players to do except map grinding forever? That's pure suck and then some for all us casuals. Shame on you GGG!

I'd say this challenge is a little bit too much myself, even as one of those people who can just grind day in and out for 40 challenges.

If it wasnt for the fact that its possible to create a char in multiple leagues to increase the amount od dailies you get every day, I'd probably just skip it and go for 36 myself.

It's not 3200... but it's a lot. You get 4 "free" shots each day for each mode you participate in. SSF and MP each get their own 4 and HC and SC get separate spawns. That's literally 16 "free" shots each day if you're up to the challenge, and statistically about 3 more just from running those 16. So 20/day isn't unreasonable for someone who is trying to complete this challenge and are willing to work at it.

Yes, it would take time to do it. But that's what challenges are all about.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

It's not 3200... but it's a lot. You get 4 "free" shots each day for each mode you participate in. SSF and MP each get their own 4 and HC and SC get separate spawns. That's literally 16 "free" shots each day if you're up to the challenge, and statistically about 3 more just from running those 16. So 20/day isn't unreasonable for someone who is trying to complete this challenge and are willing to work at it.

Yes, it would take time to do it. But that's what challenges are all about.

I agree, and I dont think thats what people are complaining about. I think its the fact that this challenge is just on a new level of time commitment compared to previous ones. I dont really care though. If a challenge becomes too tedious for me to do, that just means im no longer the target audience of 40/40 and I will have to stick to something less.

Sometimes it works to different maps with different tiers.

Arrrrgggg this is such tedious garbage. I cant stand being 1 challenge away from the cape but my god I'm going brain numb running maps trying to get alva to spawn. I'm so sick of all this RNG and speed meta trash and the endless GGGriefing.

Repetition is not challenge.

Time limits are not challenge.

So Lazy.

Devoid of creativity.