Trade Etiquette: Seller or buyer sends trade request first?

Is there eqiquette on how fast you should multi messsage people?

I've had instances where I've invited people literally not even 1.5 seconds after they msged me for something only to have them refuse or ignore. I find this to be incredibly frustraiting and happens most often with the lower value items like maps which make that process even worse than it already is for both sides.

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Nephalim wrote:

Is there eqiquette on how fast you should multi messsage people?

I've had instances where I've invited people literally not even 1.5 seconds after they msged me for something only to have them refuse or ignore. I find this to be incredibly frustraiting and happens most often with the lower value items like maps which make that process even worse than it already is for both sides.

Well people should wait after they message but some players expect everyone to reply in 1 second and drop everything they are doing. If they spam you and even worse then invite you to group, just instant ignore.

It seems standard to me to wait for the seller to send the trade request, but if I'm asking for a single item and they've been sitting at their stash for more than 30 seconds, I'll send one in case they've, like, forgotten somehow. No one's ever complained about me doing that as long as I've waited a while already.

I also don't mind when buyers send me trade requests--on the contrary, it saves me a right click if they do so! But enough people got mad at me early in my PoE career for sending premature trade requests as a buyer that I've come to understand that it's annoying to many for some reason.

There are perfectly normal reasons why somebody could be in a rush that don't amount to "piss of the seller".

Why an etiquette would be required for trading in a game is beyond me.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

There are perfectly normal reasons why somebody could be in a rush that don't amount to "piss of the seller".

Sure. But not a single one of those reasons warrants actually, you know, pissing off the seller. *

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Why an etiquette would be required for trading in a game is beyond me.

Maybe for the same reason common courtesy is a good idea in any other context. (like here, for example. Where I edited my post to delete the closing line "...you paste-eating dipshit" because it lacked propriety, doncha know)





*with the exception of "a poe-crazed gunman is holding a pistol to my head and will blow my brains out if I do not make the following trade in under 5 seconds."

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Foogalicious wrote:

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Boem wrote:

There are perfectly normal reasons why somebody could be in a rush that don't amount to "piss of the seller".

Sure. But not a single one of those reasons warrants actually, you know, pissing off the seller. *

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Why an etiquette would be required for trading in a game is beyond me.

Maybe for the same reason common courtesy is a good idea in any other context. (like here, for example. Where I edited my post to delete the closing line "...you paste-eating dipshit" because it lacked propriety, doncha know)





*with the exception of "a poe-crazed gunman is holding a pistol to my head and will blow my brains out if I do not make the following trade in under 5 seconds."

Your lack of creativity is of no concern to me or this community, honestly.

Common courtesy isn't a good idea in any context, it's apropriate depending on context and not an absolute requirement, which make it usable.

There is a practical reason why the word courtesy is pre-empted with common and it's precisely for this reason....

It's fairly hard to strenghten the point when it's embedded in the concept itself, really.

From a paste-eating hard skinned dipshit with love.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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Foogalicious wrote:

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Boem wrote:

There are perfectly normal reasons why somebody could be in a rush that don't amount to "piss of the seller".

Sure. But not a single one of those reasons warrants actually, you know, pissing off the seller. *

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Why an etiquette would be required for trading in a game is beyond me.

Maybe for the same reason common courtesy is a good idea in any other context. (like here, for example. Where I edited my post to delete the closing line "...you paste-eating dipshit" because it lacked propriety, doncha know)





*with the exception of "a poe-crazed gunman is holding a pistol to my head and will blow my brains out if I do not make the following trade in under 5 seconds."

Your lack of creativity is of no concern to me or this community, honestly.

Common courtesy isn't a good idea in any context, it's apropriate depending on context and not an absolute requirement, which make it usable.

There is a practical reason why the word courtesy is pre-empted with common and it's precisely for this reason....

It's fairly hard to strenghten the point when it's embedded in the concept itself, really.

From a paste-eating hard skinned dipshit with love.

Peace,

-Boem-

You seem to be stuck on the idea of etiquette being "required" rather than just "something we should all engage in as a matter of course to make life easier, more pleasant, and civilized". I could point out that the whole "required" condition was your conceit in the first place, but allow me to instead rephrase my take on etiquette without suggesting it is "required" in any way: if you don't think courtesy has a place in an in-game trade setting... you might just be kind of an asshole.

I honestly have never given this thought. I'm almost always the buyer, ready the currency in my pack, and wait for seller to invite and initiate trade. I just assume they were recently mapping/bossing/shooting the breeze with game friends and need to find the item in their stash.

I sell a lot, hundreds of items every league, may be more.

At first hated when the buyer initiated the trade - many times not ready.

Then just got tired of making extra click to initiate the trade.

At the end - there is no etiquette. Trade sucks balls. Don't even say thank you anymore. They are lucky if i dont tell them to go screw themselves. Trade interactions are awful, takes 20 messages to buy one item, wasteful. Don't even wanna trade anymore.

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Foogalicious wrote:

You seem to be stuck on the idea of etiquette being "required" rather than just "something we should all engage in as a matter of course to make life easier, more pleasant, and civilized". I could point out that the whole "required" condition was your conceit in the first place, but allow me to instead rephrase my take on etiquette without suggesting it is "required" in any way: if you don't think courtesy has a place in an in-game trade setting... you might just be kind of an asshole.

Oh i thought we were discussing the OP, who is trying to deduce a "correct" etiquette which obviously imply's people not following it to be behaving incorrectly.

My stance was exactly your point.

etiquette is not required, it happens within every trade individually and if it does not, people respond apropriatly given the context.

You know social etiquete, like saying "hello sir", "thank you for trade", "give me a minute sir".....

And i am an asshole, to people who deserve it, like that a** who responds with "hurry it up you flaming turd" when i tell them they have to wait a minute.

Gladly though, the times i have to behave like an asshole are far and distant between massive amounts of trades.

Peace,

-Boem-