fix the gluttony of elements abuse

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Peterlerock wrote:

Iirc the only thing that can kill is some weird degen effects that don't appear in delve (or only in specific encounters).

And darkness damage started to kill havoc's team last league at some point.
They needed to consume a huge amount of flasks that also had no radius (because the upgrades get super expensive down there).

darkness was hitting hard because we couldnt find any azurite to upgrade our darkness res + light radius after 3k+
i think its fixed this league and shouldnt be a problem anymore.

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Freya98 wrote:

i dont understand the negative resistance thing and how gluttony makes it happen that he doesnt take any dmg.
doesnt he take 60% phys dmg?

Get hit for 1 million phys:
600k phys
- 400k converted to lightning, now healing you.
600k-400k = you still take 200k damage.

That's not enough, we need to take more lightning damage so that it looks like this:
600k phys -601k lightning < 0

With -51% lightning resist, we take 51% more lightning damage.

400k * 1.51 (or more) = more than 600k

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Peterlerock wrote:

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Freya98 wrote:

i dont understand the negative resistance thing and how gluttony makes it happen that he doesnt take any dmg.
doesnt he take 60% phys dmg?

Get hit for 1 million phys:
600k phys
- 400k converted to lightning, now healing you.
600k-400k = you still take 200k damage.

That's not enough, we need to take more lightning damage so that it looks like this:
600k phys -601k lightning < 0

With -51% lightning resist, we take 51% more lightning damage.

400k * 1.51 (or more) = more than 600k

ok ty now i understand it. that means that its not really a "heal", but a dmg prevention, because the word "heal" implies that u first take the dmg and get it back afterwards.
but here its not the case coz otherwise he would get 1 shot before he can apply the "heal" mechanic.

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Freya98 wrote:

ok ty now i understand it. that means that its not really a "heal", but a dmg prevention, because the word "heal" implies that u first take the dmg and get it back afterwards.
but here its not the case coz otherwise he would get 1 shot before he can apply the "heal" mechanic.

You "take negative amounts of damage", which is basically the definition "being healed".

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Freya98 wrote:

ok ty now i understand it. that means that its not really a "heal", but a dmg prevention, because the word "heal" implies that u first take the dmg and get it back afterwards.

this is what happens. You take 60% phys damage, bringing your life < 0. At the same time, the 40% lightning damage is prevented. Afterwards, still in the same game-tick, the prevented damage is applied to you as healing, thus bringing you > 0. And with that, at the end of all calculations, when the game checks how much life you have: > 0, so you are fine. This is the same way how for example "damage on full life" works in the presence of degen effects and life-leech: the degen removes life, life leech adds life(bringing you back to full), so at the end of the tick, you get the more damage.

however with soul catcher flask they can obviously have it up permanently which makes them immortal.
being immortal in delves is OP and should be nerfed by all means.

depth 2700 with 1 hp and 150 es

nice balance team GGG

1 item completely fucked up delves for everyone in 2 leagues in a row.

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DivineChampion wrote:

1 item completely fucked up delves for everyone in 2 leagues in a row.

Perhaps for you. I'm still enjoying it. My advise is do not let others' achievements interrupt your fun. Ponder this phrase:

"Comparison is the thief of joy"
-Theodore Roosevelt

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FathomWheel wrote:

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DivineChampion wrote:

1 item completely fucked up delves for everyone in 2 leagues in a row.

Perhaps for you. I'm still enjoying it. My advise is do not let others' achievements interrupt your fun. Ponder this phrase:

"Comparison is the thief of joy"
-Theodore Roosevelt

having this bug in 1-2 leagues is not the end of the world, but it simply has to be fixed by all means