Sire Of shards and molten strike

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Hmm, the best way to describe it is like this.

If you have a skill that fires 1 projectile vs a skill that fires 10 projectiles, adding 4 additional projectiles is more useful to the skill that fires 1.

So, adding 4 projectiles to molten strike which fires 7 projectiles with the current optimal setup only provides a theoretical damage increase of 57%. If you lose an equal amount or more of dps by using sire of shards over an actual good weapon then it means it isn't worth it.


That's a way to see it but i was thinking that sometime the difference between hitting 2 ball on single target and hitting 3 can come from 1 additionnal projectile and in this case it's a 50% upgrade.
Molten strike is complicated to theorycraft and i have no idea how to do it
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Marbrax wrote:
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Hmm, the best way to describe it is like this.

If you have a skill that fires 1 projectile vs a skill that fires 10 projectiles, adding 4 additional projectiles is more useful to the skill that fires 1.

So, adding 4 projectiles to molten strike which fires 7 projectiles with the current optimal setup only provides a theoretical damage increase of 57%. If you lose an equal amount or more of dps by using sire of shards over an actual good weapon then it means it isn't worth it.


That's a way to see it but i was thinking that sometime the difference between hitting 2 ball on single target and hitting 3 can come from 1 additionnal projectile and in this case it's a 50% upgrade.
Molten strike is complicated to theorycraft and i have no idea how to do it


Molten strike projectiles are sampled uniformly over a 270 degree arc, so the end result is only pseudo random. Therefore the chance of hitting multiple projectiles in the same attack is exponentially less for each one that lands in the target radius.

To make matters worse, I have a gut feeling that the "Nova" from sire of shards actually increases this to a full 360 degree arc, thus further limitting the chance for multi hits. That's just conjecture though so it may not be case.

Regardless I think that the loss from sire of shards is far too great in comparison to another weapon, especially seeing as you cant run lycosidae / a yellow with hits cant be evaded.
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Last edited by Risxas#7671 on Jan 21, 2019, 11:51:34 AM
That was also my concern that the nova thing decreases the amount of balls you can get on a small surface.
You convinced me that a grelwood shank is better in any points for molten strike

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