[3.5] Hybrid Triple Curse Spider Occultist [HoA + Arakaali's Fang + AotSpider] - Shaper down

So with the buff to Arakaali's Fang (and me liking poison- and minion-type builds) I wanted to try to make a build around it. It's still a work in progress so nothing is set in stone and I'm really looking forward to input from you guys!

PoB: https://pastebin.com/gcsvNhWf

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If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask! :)

how do you think devouring diadem would work? i want to do occultist over the necro but not sure if CI is worth down the road.

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diablo184 wrote:

how do you think devouring diadem would work? i want to do occultist over the necro but not sure if CI is worth down the road.

The problem with that is, that it gives you Eldritch Battery and we have no good source of sustain other then ES.
Originaly I went full life with Void Beacon and Withering Presence, but you have no leech, no life on hit and low regen, which makes recovering from a dicey situation pretty hard.
The Vile Bastion and the (minor) ES gain on hit from Fenumus' Spinnerets fixed that for me.
But maybe it's useable with MoM, i'm not sure though.

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a1mlezz wrote:

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diablo184 wrote:

how do you think devouring diadem would work? i want to do occultist over the necro but not sure if CI is worth down the road.

The problem with that is, that it gives you Eldritch Battery and we have no good source of sustain other then ES.
Originaly I went full life with Void Beacon and Withering Presence, but you have no leech, no life on hit and low regen, which makes recovering from a dicey situation pretty hard.
The Vile Bastion and the (minor) ES gain on hit from Fenumus' Spinnerets fixed that for me.
But maybe it's useable with MoM, i'm not sure though.

why u dont use whitherin touch? it give alot more dps then lesser poison

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Deathangel1992 wrote:

why u dont use whitherin touch? it give alot more dps then lesser poison

My thinking was that I don't need it for clearing, for single target I have a wither totem and lesser poison adds flat chaos.
The spiders should have 100% chance to poison with lesser poison, since they attack with viper strike.

Added videos doing guardians and shaper.
I'm still pretty new to these fights (was third time ever doing them) so I died quite a few times.
Most of the deaths felt like my mistakes, not the build's mistakes :D

I used Withering Touch instead of Lesser Poison on these fights btw.

Also: PoE crashed during shaper fight...

Have you considered going mele phys, multi strike and withering touch in the dagger? multistrike outperforms minion dmg.

Pickup the minion movement speed with abyss gems to make up for it, also takes pressure off getting it on accessories. Once you have 40-50% minion movement speed going higher isnt too noticeable.

Im 4 levls off my final build atm but with those ill be able to run haste full time with 188k shaper dps per minion 221k dps with vaal haste popped. That's ignoring the impale dps from dread banner from 20 minions with 4.5 aps (90aps total).

I'll be running Aspect of the Spider, Haste, Tempchains+Blasphemy, and dread banner. just need a level 4 enlighten and a few more levels, until them i have arctic armor on instead of haste.

Hey, isnt Shield Charge too slow? Why not phase run or leap slam?

Hey guys,

I took a while off poe and came back now and changed the build a bit:

- I'm now using Winter Orb instead of Ball Lightning as my poison/curse delivery skill. It feels way better and is just as good at keeping your virulence stacks high. Oh and no more gem swapping for single target!

- I specced out of DoT nodes, because we don't really do that much damage outself anyway. Instead I went into more jewel sockets for minion damage jewels and skill effect duration for increased spider duration (also nice for WO)

- removed the random CWDT setup and wither totem. I'm now using War Banner for more damage, phase run and decoy totem for more safety

- I'm running withering touch + multistrike + minion damage in dagger now (for max single target damage - I'm at 1.6mio shaper dps for the spiders alone now)

I will try Guardians and Shaper again next week and report back how the changes affected these fights :)

Edit: Video of a Tower Map run with the changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajabHKc1kbk

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dlthunderr wrote:

Hey, isnt Shield Charge too slow? Why not phase run or leap slam?

From the Shield Charge gem: "Requires an axe, mace, sword or staff." - so you can't use that with a dagger. But in general you can use any movement skill you like :)

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the_potatoe wrote:

Have you considered going mele phys, multi strike and withering touch in the dagger? multistrike outperforms minion dmg.

Pickup the minion movement speed with abyss gems to make up for it, also takes pressure off getting it on accessories. Once you have 40-50% minion movement speed going higher isnt too noticeable.

Im 4 levls off my final build atm but with those ill be able to run haste full time with 188k shaper dps per minion 221k dps with vaal haste popped. That's ignoring the impale dps from dread banner from 20 minions with 4.5 aps (90aps total).

I'll be running Aspect of the Spider, Haste, Tempchains+Blasphemy, and dread banner. just need a level 4 enlighten and a few more levels, until them i have arctic armor on instead of haste.

I checked it in PoB and it seems like Withering Touch + Multistrike + Minion Damage yields the highest damage for the spiders over all for my setup. But I'm not using haste so ymmv.

Good news:

I just completed my first ever deathless Guardians + Shaper run.
Here's a video of the Shaper fight: https://youtu.be/rmjmZQkF39w

Does anyone know why my char sperged out sometimes when I tried to cast Winter Orb in there? Never happened before.