4-linking?

I've heard horror stories about unsuccessfully 6-linking something and wasting thousands of fusings.

So I'm wondering how hard is it to 4-link helm/boots/gloves if buying linked ones is too expensive? Is it even worth doing or better farm currency and buy the linked version?
Last bumped on Oct 18, 2018, 3:44:54 PM
4 linking is not difficult at all. It can usually be done for less than 20 fusing orbs. Most times it takes me less than 10.
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esostaks wrote:
I've heard horror stories about unsuccessfully 6-linking something and wasting thousands of fusings.

So I'm wondering how hard is it to 4-link helm/boots/gloves if buying linked ones is too expensive? Is it even worth doing or better farm currency and buy the linked version?


4-linking is extremely easy. You go to Vorci and click the 4-link button and it's done for 5 fusings. No fusing spamming. Nothing.

It's not worth it to buy a 4 link'd version of any item, unless it has a corruption you want on it like elemental weakness on hit or something.

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basically, 6-linking is also easy, you just pay 1500 fusing to Vorici:)

you can choose between paying fixed price or gamble. we know that gambling average cost is slightly lower than Vorici cost. But you can loose all your bankoll and get nothing.

Horror stories come from people who decided to gamble and lost. Sometimes its hard for a gambler to take consequences.

However, 4-L has a high chance thus the variance is not that high, I also do it quite often so I gamble there. but you can always decide..
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Last edited by Ludvator#6587 on Oct 17, 2018, 3:50:05 PM
4 links aren't difficult - but you can spend more than you would have if you just paid an extra chaos or two for a ready made 4link. 2-3 fusings are roughly a chaos depending on the market.

Jewellers tend to be 8-10 a chaos so you usually have more room there. I used to look strictly at the chaos as a new player but now that I've got experience I at least consider the extra costs.
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esostaks wrote:
I've heard horror stories about unsuccessfully 6-linking something and wasting thousands of fusings.

So I'm wondering how hard is it to 4-link helm/boots/gloves if buying linked ones is too expensive? Is it even worth doing or better farm currency and buy the linked version?


Honestly, with a decent build, by the time you'd actually need a four-linked item, you've likely got your hideout and have Vorici already leveled up so you can do it for a handful of fuse. Even if not, you can't four-link any gear under ilevel 25 anyway. And, you can go far past 25 without a four-linked item even using a build that has a broken leg and throws bits of styrofoam at the enemy...

IOW - It will take care of itself, eventually. Either you'll easily get have the Jewelers Orbs to get the sockets and have the Fuse to do it manually, or you'll have your Hideout and have Vorici leveled up by the time you really need it.

The only difficult "linking" process is a six-link. Even a five-link is easy by the time you need it. What's hard? Off-colored sockets... That's hard, so save up your Chromatic Orbs. There is a workaround, of course, using Vorici, and it's pretty easy. But, it eats up some materials that a lower-level player may not have. Don't worry about that, either, until you're off-coloring a six-link... :)
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esostaks wrote:
I've heard horror stories about unsuccessfully 6-linking something and wasting thousands of fusings.

So I'm wondering how hard is it to 4-link helm/boots/gloves if buying linked ones is too expensive? Is it even worth doing or better farm currency and buy the linked version?


Honestly, with a decent build, by the time you'd actually need a four-linked item, you've likely got your hideout and have Vorici already leveled up so you can do it for a handful of fuse. Even if not, you can't four-link any gear under ilevel 25 anyway. And, you can go far past 25 without a four-linked item even using a build that has a broken leg and throws bits of styrofoam at the enemy...

IOW - It will take care of itself, eventually. Either you'll easily get have the Jewelers Orbs to get the sockets and have the Fuse to do it manually, or you'll have your Hideout and have Vorici leveled up by the time you really need it.

The only difficult "linking" process is a six-link. Even a five-link is easy by the time you need it. What's hard? Off-colored sockets... That's hard, so save up your Chromatic Orbs. There is a workaround, of course, using Vorici, and it's pretty easy. But, it eats up some materials that a lower-level player may not have. Don't worry about that, either, until you're off-coloring a six-link... :)


Btw, how does coloring at Vorici work? Let's say I have 4 green sockets, and I chose option - 2 red, 1 blue socket. Does that mean that my fourth green also can change to random color or is it guaranteed that it will stay green and only three sockets will change?

Or let's say I choose at least 2 red sockets option. Will the rest two sockets also be influenced or stay unchanged?

I guess what I am asking if there is a certain way to get the desired color combination.
Last edited by esostaks#6761 on Oct 18, 2018, 4:34:59 AM
If you want 2 reds and 2 greens (for example) on a normally green dex based item, then the 'at least 2 reds' is the way to go on a 4 slot item. The 3rd and 4th are not guaranteed to be green though, they still randomize.

G-G-G-G
R-G-R-R
... dammit
R-B-R-G
... really?
R-R-G-G
... was that so hard?

If you are using the jewelers method of getting off colours (e.g. alternating between 2 and 3 slots until the 3rd slot is a colour you want) then the 2 slots stay the same each time.

I.e.

R-R
R-R-G
R-R
R-R-G
R-R
... sometime later
R-R-B
... /cheer
R-R-B-G
R-R-B
R-R-B-G
R-R-B
R-R-B-G
R-R-B
... you get the idea
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esostaks wrote:
...I guess what I am asking if there is a certain way to get the desired color combination.


Yes.

First, the most important thing you want to do is to consult the "Vorici Calculator."

https://siveran.github.io/calc.html

You input the required data, which is the base stat requirements for the item to be equipped by the player and the number of desired sockets, keeping in mind the maximum number of sockets allowed for the slot. (Helm, gloves, boots get a max of four sockets available in those slots, while chest and two hand weapons get six. Single hand weapons get three and shields get three. Certain special items have their own requirements/conditions. You must also keep in mind, while at low levels, that an item's "ilevel" also dictates how many sockets it can have. See: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_level )

So, once you put in the requirements and number of desired sockets, you tell Vorici Calc what colors you want those sockets to be. Keep in mind that the actual color sequence when the item is fully linked does not matter for linked skill or support gems. All that is necessary is that the colored sockets are linked and not the order in which they're linked.

On the left are the variety of methods that could be used to get that particular combination of colors. The method you are recommended to choose would be the method that involves the least amount of crafting materials. In this case, you want to use the lowest "Average Cost" in Chromatics method.

This calculator works wonderfully and will save you a LOT of needless spamming with Chromatics. But, when you get to what are called "Off Color" socket colors, you'll always be looking at an expensive outlay in Chromatics if you limit your crafting method to only what is available using just the means listed here.

"Off Color" crafting is when you have an item, let's say a glove in this case, and it requires high Strength and Dexterity, but you really want mostly Blue (Intelligence) sockets in it. Well, that item is going to cost you a LOT of chromatics to yield a lot of Blue sockets.

The probability of colors available on any roll for an item is dependent upon that item's base stat requirements. For instance, you're much more likely to get Red and Green sockets on an item that has Strength and Dexterity requirements listed on it. Blue sockets would be rare for that item.

In general, for "Off Color" crafting, it's cheaper, but a bit more time consuming, to use an Off-Color crafting scheme that relies on the way Vorici Crafting works. Saevan covered some of that, but a video may help you to understand it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kXPc8IomRI

That's a pretty good explanation, but there are plenty of other videos and tutorials out there for this more complex, yet targeted method for crafting difficult "Off Color" combinations for gear. This method is usually more suitable for six-link items. BUT, you can use it with particularly troublesome 4-link off-color combinations.
Last edited by Morkonan#5844 on Oct 18, 2018, 1:37:43 PM
Just reading some topics here and there and I realise my vorici is not even lvl.8

Manual 6 linking FTW.

The horror stories are just fairy tales!
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