Please post your build if you have trouble with Incursion timer

EDIT: This thread's intention is to help both collecting data being of value to GGG to improve the game and giving advice to improve builds having trouble. Therefore, giving advice in this thread is appreciated, but please be respectful. :)

Disclaimer: This thread is created to collect links to builds having trouble with the Incursion timer. If you want to argue pro or contra Incursion timer, please use the original thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/2151775

Please help Nomancs and me to identify thoose builds having trouble with the Incursion timer.

Please provide the following information:
- Pastebin for PoB (if available)
- Skilltree
- Skills gems used (including linked support gems)
- Character level and Map-levels (where the build was having trouble with the timer)

Here are two graphs showing in a simplifed way how builds look in PoE and why there could be trouble with the Incursion timer.

Please consider both as hypotheses simplifying builds how they are affected by Incursion timer.

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Nomancs wrote:

In my view PoE builds looks like this:

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Synopse wrote:

And that is what GGG did in Incursion:

(This graph also incorporates the hypothesis of "the formular", i.e. how GGG introduces powerfull skills to new leagues.)

Edit: typos.

Aren't the timers there to encourage you to invest further into your build? So if you roll an EE monster life map and want to open many doors and upgrade the room, you know that its going to be challenging unless you have the damage\build to over come it.

IMO the only thing I would probably change about it is that the very last mob you kill should always drop a passage key. Other then that, its all good.

Temples are very rewarding, they drop maps, you can scale them up nicely, even the incursions themselves are good with how much extra loot drops because of it. It does seem like a better breach, but because of that the added a timer to give a since of urgency.

Should just be lucky there isn't a timer for the pyramid.

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goetzjam wrote:

Aren't the timers there to ...

Please use this thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/2151775
Here we are collecting only data. Thank you.

I think the problems with Incursions is that they are horribly balanced in early game for a lot of builds but it's not so much of an issue in late game FROM A TIMER PERSPECTIVE. Obviously things like spawning in the middle of 50 vaal constructs and going SPLAT is completely ridiculous but that's not an issue with the timer.

FWIW I started with a Fireball ignite build and ended up rerolling by Act 8 because I just couldn't tolerate it anymore. Incursions were almost all failed and the ignite damage just sucks balls in early game (it's also pretty subpar in late game). Went meta arc traps and never failed an incursion once.

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Namcap wrote:

I think the problems with Incursions is that they are horribly balanced in early game for a lot of builds but it's not so much of an issue in late game FROM A TIMER PERSPECTIVE. Obviously things like spawning in the middle of 50 vaal constructs and going SPLAT is completely ridiculous but that's not an issue with the timer.

FWIW I started with a Fireball ignite build and ended up rerolling by Act 8 because I just couldn't tolerate it anymore. Incursions were almost all failed and the ignite damage just sucks balls in early game (it's also pretty subpar in late game). Went meta arc traps and never failed an incursion once.

Please use this thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/2151775
Here we are collecting only data. Thank you.

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Synopse wrote:

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Namcap wrote:

I think the problems with Incursions is that they are horribly balanced in early game for a lot of builds but it's not so much of an issue in late game FROM A TIMER PERSPECTIVE. Obviously things like spawning in the middle of 50 vaal constructs and going SPLAT is completely ridiculous but that's not an issue with the timer.

FWIW I started with a Fireball ignite build and ended up rerolling by Act 8 because I just couldn't tolerate it anymore. Incursions were almost all failed and the ignite damage just sucks balls in early game (it's also pretty subpar in late game). Went meta arc traps and never failed an incursion once.

Please use this thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/2151775
Here we are collecting only data. Thank you.

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FWIW I started with a Fireball ignite build and ended up rerolling by Act 8 because I just couldn't tolerate it anymore. Incursions were almost all failed and the ignite damage just sucks balls in early game (it's also pretty subpar in late game). Went meta arc traps and never failed an incursion once.

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Namcap wrote:

FWIW I started with a Fireball ignite build and ended up rerolling by Act 8 because I just couldn't tolerate it anymore. Incursions were almost all failed and the ignite damage just sucks balls in early game (it's also pretty subpar in late game). Went meta arc traps and never failed an incursion once.

Thank you, anyway we need more data to understand how the build worked actually.

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Please provide the following information:
- Pastebin for PoB (if available)
- Skilltree
- Skills gems used (including linked support gems)
- Character level and Map-levels (where the build was having trouble with the timer)

This topic should be in Gameplay Help and Discussion. This is not feedback.

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Prizy wrote:

This topic should be in Gameplay Help and Discussion. This is not feedback.

Yes, you are right. I will ask support to move it.