[3.9] Tesla Cyclone | Destroy the Game | All Content | Super Fast! | Spin 2 Win | Updated

3.9 - 2 Minute Uber Elder Kill ez pz https://www.twitch.tv/videos/548366264




3.9 News

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I've Updated the Guide!! Tesla is Stronger than Ever! Massive DPS increases over the original and So much room to chase new upgrades or if you casually play, a Nice easy path below to gear up and complete all the content.

Below is a full updated guide minus min/maxing upgrades AFTER you've completed everything or have a lot of currency and just want to spend more to elevate the build even more. Upgrading past the guide, while extremely fun, isn't required.

This will include things like the Awakened Gems, New unique glove - Hands of the High Templar with double corruptions + crit, The Savior Sword + Paradoxia, Double Curse rings, Amazing Crusader or Hunter or double influenced chests, Elusive and/or Tailwind boots, Offering of the serpant gloves + Ryslatha's Coil belt, and more. Everything below will get you caught up and updated to present game day.

Again, none of these are needed but if you really like the build and want to shred, super fun investments.




Min/Maxy Lots of currency pushing the build: https://pastebin.com/4Mw0r1Vt 20.8 Mil DPS (not counting saviour clones that double the damage)


Update to the guide:


If you already posses either a Dual curse corruption on amulet (having to pre anoint a passive) or get Double curse on your chest and are looking for what to anoint after, IGN: Fettmagnet brought to my attention one I overlooked. Tenacity. With the Transfiguration of Body and the %hp, you gain the most dps while also gaining a bit more hp.


Again only for those who do not need and/or do not want Whispers of Doom (You could also be budget and only have 1 curse on hit and want to think about adding this)






I was featured in an internet article. Oh man! I'm famous *needs to buy cool guy shades*
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Hey Exiles!


My build was featured in an online article! woot woot!
Just wanted to drop a link that Twitch user: Sethers656 had brought to my attention.

http://www.requnix.com/path-of-exile-3-3-incursion-best-builds


This is an article written by David Allen highlighted the build in the top 5 Best Speed Mapping/Farming Builds section.


Feel free to check out the article. Some great tips, especially for those looking for ideas on the league and hang out with me and friends on Twitch for some good times.


Red Elder DPS Gif


This Puts Me in The Mood


-Do you like to have fun with Cyclone?


T15 Boss killed in 2 seconds video sample (3.3) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86XW1lZciY&feature=youtu.be


This is a pure fun guide to maximizing the Potential of Crit Physical Cyclone with the only ascendancy class that matters for scion, ASCENDANT *bad joke*. This build is for those that want to clear maps so fast they do not have time to question things like: "WTF am I doing w/ my life?"

I've been a long time fan of PoE and over the years have made many builds for friends. Just wanted to try and share a little something with the community about my take on cyclone and I honestly hope you either learn something about building or appreciate the attempt at humor. I love you guys and this game. Please leave a comment as to what you think or how you can improve the build. Thank you.

Onward to the Murder Journey!
Atlas 157/157 With all 5 Sextants
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New Atlas progression - Conquerors



PROS:

- One of the Fastest Mapping Builds in the GAME
- Can do all content
- Budget Friendly Clear up to T15-16 on a budget. (Can also scale really high the more investment you put in)
- Can use as a League Starter
- Can Do Uber Lab
- Personal Pro: Melee
- Fun with Headhunter if you have the currency. Not needed at all for the build. Some strong builds are just not great with the belt.

CONS:

- Can not Facetank the world.
- Requires you to learn end game boss mechanics (Personally Do not see this as a con because I like actually playing the game.)



Neither Pro or Con: Depending on your ascendancy choice, if you go Slayer, You can do physical reflect map mods. If you do not, You can not. More on ascendancy choices later.


TABLE OF CONTENTS
- Path of Building Variants
- Gearing options/Passive Trees - Choose Your Destiny! Gem Links Included for each choice.
- Flasks and Jewels
- Ascendancy/Pantheon/Bandits

- F.A.Q.
- All content down but I still want upgrades for more damage and more clearspeed


- Videos
- Leveling Guide
- Tesla PROS: Awesome shoutouts to achievements by fans of the build. (Uber Elder included)


New Player Disclaimer/ Veteran Clarifier:
I will Be including several way to tackle this build that never changes the core of what the build is: Fast, Fun, Cyclone goodness. I've learned over the course of putting this guide out that different people take to the build in different ways and I want to try and add CLEAR paths.

Path of Building Variants
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For Those with Path of Building (Which I recommend everyone downloading and using for all your POE builds). I'm going to lay out the options for the build here.

Leveling/League Starter: - https://pastebin.com/sqv43aCL

Key Notes for new players: Make sure your Cast When Damage Taken Gem procs your immortal call gem and roughly 50-60% remaining health. Also, Keep the Precision aura around level 10 ish for ease of use with your remaining mana.

This passive tree are for those league starting that want a safe, cheap passive tree route. This will easily get you safely set up for mapping and taking full advantage of the Pure talent jewel and your starting Might of the Meek. I did include a couple of playing around options for other gear in there if you want. This is like a minimal, fast map ready, can use right at the start and level up to 90 with. Or if you are leveling an alt, feel free to adjust as needed with optimal leveling gear.

Standard tree with gear after league start - https://pastebin.com/rkPJtn0P

Normal Slayer/Raider POB: https://pastebin.com/UNGe8BQA

Berserker/Raider POB: https://pastebin.com/nv30CR7a (More Damage!) You can switch to this after obtaining Offering to the Serpent gloves or a Soul Tether belt (budget). You also add the Berserk gem in your boots for a MASSIVE boost to damage vs Metamorph or bosses!



The Most Min/Maxed version I personally have tinkered with
https://pastebin.com/4Mw0r1Vt

- This comes out to 20.8 Mil DPS + Saviour Reflections == 41.6 Mil DPS when the star align on a bosses face (which isn't that hard to do).





Gearing Options/Passive Trees (Shit yeah! I have saved up currency/I'm New and need to look everything up on Pathofexile.com/trade to decide if I even want to play this build.)

*DISCLAIMER*


The only Essential Gear/What to Invest into first No matter what Path you Choose With the Build
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You will need to have either mana leech on 1 passive OR on one jewel.

-- This gives the build great/easy access to Int(from the +25 attributes.


1st Purchase Priority in the whole league = Thief's Torment Ring.



Everything with this ring fits into the build 100%


Without the ring, you will need a jewel with mana leech or mana leech on a leveling item or there is a mana leech node on the far right of the passive tree in the ranger area that is 1 point off the main trail that you will have to get (I recommend this last suggestion as a last option over everything else) until you get this ring. It will just make the whole leveling process a lot smoother overall.




Gear to aim for while League Starting:

- Thief's Torment (1st purchase to aim for)
- Belt of the Deceiver
- Daresso's Salute
- Hiltless (after picking up Slayer on Ascendacy) otherwise Kondo's Pride
- Starkonja's
- Bubonic Trail Murder Boots Or just Rares with Life/Resist/Movement
- Armor Chest with Life and Resists (Tabula Rasa optional)
- Rare Gloves that fill any need you need for the build (life / resists / attack speed / w/e )


Gem Links:
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Chest - Cyclone - Melee Physical Damage - Brutality - Infused Channeling - Impale - Fortify


Gloves - Cast When Damage Taken - Immortal Call - Pride - Blood and Sand

Helm - Blood Rage - Enhance Dread Banner Precision

Boots - Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Blood Magic - Berserk

(Only Add in Berserk Gem if Going Berserker/Raider for Ascendancies)
(If wanting to stay Slayer/Raider, put in a Portal Gem/ any of your choice)

Weapon - Vaal Ancestral Warchief - Multiple Totems Support - Melee Physical Damage - Maim - Fortify - Brutality



Gear you want after you get your League starter gear / Have currency:

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https://imgur.com/a/EM7cEih

On The Rares:

Chest - You want to get Socketed Attacks Have -15 Total Mana Cost / Life / Resist. Anything extra is up to you.


Boots - You want Life / Movement / Resists. Anything else up to you.



Ring - You're looking for a Shaper ring with Life / Assassin's Mark on Hit / and Resists. Physical damage to attacks is nice too.



The one I linked here is Dual Curse. Not needed at all. Only need 1 curse.

Optional: You can switch out the Rat's Nest Helm for a Starkonja's for a tiny dps loss and a lot more health.



What about Anoints?
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topa45EU wrote:
Thank you for the build! What about anointment?




Good and cheap anoints would be Rampart or Bladedancer or Kinetic Blast (2H).




After you have pumped some money into the build and if you want to choose to add Assassin's Mark on hit to your shaper ring and either a double curse on the same ring or Shaper's Touch w/ vuln on hit or even the High templar gloves with vuln on hit, you can anoint Whispers of Doom and go for the double curse.

Also check F.A.Q. for more info.









FLASKS AND JEWELS


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General All Round Flasks



JEWELS

You will need to have either mana leech on 1 passive OR on one jewel.

Look for:

+% Life , Critical Multiplier <--- Top tier (life being the absolute best and most wanted roll)
Attack speed, Damage, Crit chance <--- Still good




Ascendancy/Pantheon/Bandits


ASCENDANCY

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Normal: Head Toward Slayer

Cruel: Pick up Slayer. Start toward Raider

Merciless: Pick up Raider.

Uber: + 1 Passive and finish the Ranger route with Grants 2 Passive points and Can allocate passive in starting point.


Now, After you level and gain access to a Soul Tether Belt, You can switch to Berserker/Raider for a HUGE bump in damage while keeping the most important aspect of the Slayer Ascendancy - Overleech. You would just respec those ascendancy points (5 Regrets per 1 ascendancy) and you are set!




PANTHEON
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Major God Recommendation:

- Soul of Arakaali

Minor God Recommendation:

- Soul of Ralakesh - Neato

- Soul of Ryslatha - For Lab help


BANDITS
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Kill them All for 2 Passive points.
Help Alira for very easy all resist access.

Either option is fine. I personally prefer to gain the 2 passives but both will 100% work.





- LAB ENCHANTS:
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Cyclone Attack speed, Cyclone Damage, Blood rage Attack Speed for Helm. 16% attack speed when you get a kill on Boots or 2% regen when hit. Choices Choices.



F.A.Q.

Q - HOW DO I GET INT ON THIS BUILD?
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A - To quote Aimanan in the forum:
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00. Pure Talent
01. Versatility
02. +10 int node 2 steps to the left of Master of the Arena
03. Coordination
04. Trickery
05. Coldhearted Calculation
06. Aspect of the Lynx (variant)



Type "Intelligence" in the search bar at the top right of your passives tree which is shown when you press P ingame. This will highlight all nodes with int. Verify which ones this build takes. The same action can be carried out in a PoB import, there is a 'filter' search bat at the bottom of the page which displays the tree.


No Video Required. GG Ez Game


When do I get rid of Thief's Torment AND when can I transition from Slayer/Raider to Berserker/Raider?
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Vendetta wrote:
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What confuses me is the second ring recommendation, since the Thief's Torment ring disables the second ring slot.
It's a fun build so far though.
Also, you may want to elaborate a bit further when mentioning the possibility of respeccing your ascendancies from Slayer/Raider to Berserker/Raider without losing Slayer's overleech. I'm not quite understanding that part.
Might just be me though. Maybe I'm overlooking something.


Hello,

I will try to explain, because that's the easy part.

1. Thief's torment is used for the : +30 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by your Attacks , so that you don't run out of mana while leveling. After you obtain the -15 to mana chest, you just socket cyclone in that , and your cyclone will not require any mana. Hence the thief torment will not be needed anymore. You will still need to have mana for Leaps and totems, but those are pretty cheap.





I'll chop part of this up and throw it in F.A.Q. for newer players looking for info into the transition.

On Vendetta's response, Number 1 is dead on. Thief's Torment will give you everything until you land that fossil crafted chest (cheap rn but a tad more expensive during league start)

Number 2 is one option as usually during league start, grabbing a soul tether is cheap and easy. However, as the league goes on (like right now) you want to buy Offering to the Serpent gloves. They also give you the Overleech, have great stats, can land Vuln on hit corruption and many more implicit options to help round out your build and leave the belt option open for stygian belts, belt of the deceiver, and/or Ryslatha's Coil which are all better options. Just during league start those gloves will take a tiny bit longer to obtain.


Switching over will allow you to tap into the incredible burst dps of Berserk. That gem will let you shred Metamorphs/elderslayers/Sirus etc etc like no other.




Anointments? I didn't catch it earlier in the guide/ I have double curse elsewhere and I'm curious
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Update to the guide:


If you already posses either a Dual curse corruption on amulet (having to pre anoint a passive) or get Double curse on your chest and are looking for what to anoint after, IGN: Fettmagnet brought to my attention one I overlooked. Tenacity. With the Transfiguration of Body and the %hp, you gain the most dps while also gaining a bit more hp.


Again only for those who do not need and/or do not want Whispers of Doom (You could also be budget and only have 1 curse on hit and want to think about adding this)




All content down but I still want upgrades for more damage and more clearspeed
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This is a section for those that want to throw more currency at the build than say a new player or someone who build hops a lot.

This advice will be split depending on if you want to do Slayer/Raider or Berserker/Raider.

Slayer/Raider:

- Pick up a Ryslatha's Coil Studded Belt. Beautiful increase in damage.

- Gloves + Rings Combos include: Vuln on hit Shaper's Touches + Assassin's mark on hit shaper ring + Mark of the Elder w/ Whispers of Doom Anointment on your amulet.

- You can also pick up dual curse Hand of the High Templar gloves, scrap the shaper ring for Circle of Guilt rings and redo some of your gem links to: Pride - Herald of Purity - Blood and Sand - Enlighten 4 and toss out Flesh and Stone. You can just link Maim to your totem. Also, always keep an eye out on your Precision gem while moving around your reserved mana. I small downsize on it can completely change your take on the investment process.

- You can even craft a dual curse ring + circle of guilt with the above mentioned aura gem change and then have fun with other corruptions on your gloves (Attack speed / crit / etc)

- For Boots, Upgrading from either Bubonic or a nice rare pair to a crafted pair w/ Elusive on them will really help the build shine. The Elusive buff is amazing and adds 20% Phy/Spell Dodge and 40% movement speed. The buff degens over time but then immediately reups. If you are feeling really lucky with crafting (or have the currency) You can add in Tailwind in addition to Elusive on the boots for even more dps and zoom zoom.

- Chest upgrades - You need the Socketed -total mana cost. In addition, you can add on ANY of these upgrades for more...well everything: Attack Have % crit chance /// Killed enemies explode for % of there health /// Gain Power charge on critical (great for keeping all your charges on bosses through phases) /// Double Curse /// +% hp. These can be found on Hunter or Crusader influenced set ups. Learning to craft your own too can be fun.

- Weapons - I <3 Starforge but I will add here that two extremely well rolled Jeweled Foils or a Saviour Sword + Paradoxia or a Savior Sword + one extremely well roll Foil (400+ pdps) can offer amazing dps to the build.

If you do not know what the Savior sword is, look it up. The reflections basically Double the potential damage of the build.

- Replacing your top right Might of the Meek for Unnatural Instinct. This is a sexy upgrade for the build that gives more dps/movement speed/sex appeal.

- Also, A Pride Watcher's eye with 2 more impale. Precision Watcher's eye etc can be added in for even more damage.

Berserker/Raider:

- Most of the stuff mentioned for Slayer/Raider applies here, however, you will need something to keep that Slayer leech on your build via items. The two choices are Soul Tether belt or Offering to the Serpent.

- I MUCH prefer the Offering to the Serpent here as it frees up the belt slot for Ryslatha's Coil or even a Headhunter. Same advice applies on the rings as Slayer/Raider as do the boots and chest and weapon.

- Also again, if you switch to Berserker/Raider, Get the Berserk Gem and slam that bb on max rage on bosses, etc for a MASSIVE jump in damage.




Videos
I just took random clips of one of MANY kills from a stream b/c I'm lazy and posted. I could have used better footage but oh well.

3.9 "Comedy" Build Showcase feat. Drox Kill Awakener 8
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/538178727

3.9 Sirus Awakener 8 - Laggy and Deathless w/ "Comedy"
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/538190106

3.9 Deathless Uber Elder -https://www.twitch.tv/videos/538633574
3.9 2 Minute Uber Elder Kill: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/548366264

3.9 Elder Guardian + Red Metamorph https://www.twitch.tv/videos/538165164
3.9 Mino (w/ HH. Thought it was funny)
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/538174619

For Uber Elder Kills, check out the TESLA PROS Section on 2nd post.

Minotaur Fight 3.3-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG-VGAwUHuA

T15 Boss Fight in a flash - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86XW1lZciY

Uber Lab Anime 3.3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR5KwC1dkpY

Shaper 3.3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDiwSLkuXVQ

T15 Map + Boss - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlhvEpbO4I8&t=190s

T15 Carcass Map with NO Headhunter on -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obrewJUBnMM&t=12s
Last edited by Vashseden on Feb 11, 2020, 9:57:20 AM
Last bumped on Feb 19, 2020, 4:26:54 PM
LEAGUE STARTER POST ------------- A.K.A. LEVELING GUIDE



Hiya all who are leveling this build right now.

Start the game with Cleave and either a 2h or dual wield.

At level 12, (a.k.a. when you hit the last waypoint of Act 1) go to town and swap cleave for Sunder. You can keep Cleave if you like the way it feels. Up to you.

Limbsplit - Cauterizer - Rigwald's - Terminus Est. This is a pretty ez pz 2h path


screaming eagles - 1 brightbeak at 20 with a descent rare axe- 1 good rare + brightbeak at 40 ish - Terminus Est (transition to cyclone) is an ok dual wield path.

These are just some suggestions. There are plenty of great weapons and combos for leveling. If you find something you think is fun, stick with it and kick some ass.

Other notes while leveling: Grab a few +your weapon type of choice nodes that you can orb of regret later (2-4 nodes). Some ppl like to Dual Wield level, others like 2H. totally your call. I've level'd both several times with zero issues. Carry a mana flask with you until you get a thief's torment ring then wave bye bye to it forever.

For passives (minus the nodes you want to get for your weapon type) feel free to follow this path:

https://poeplanner.com/ABMAAGMAEwAAAC6-vILkkBGKr0rIbqq18jWS2L14DcAaqW534wHchNlHfr02ZU2-p3lowQRfPxQg7w5QR-RRl3kJljkO6wmFUtlhrY3Pfnas6hj46xRxDjzscYWPgy4bqsEH135jFwAAAAAA


Side note to new players: You can pick up the Resolute Technique Keystone here for leveling purposes, just remember to take it off when you either get to level 44-50 or when you decide to switch to cyclone. It's completely optional, just a tip.

After that path + a couple of weapon nodes, add this path:

https://poeplanner.com/ABMAAM0AEwAAAGO-vILkkBGKr0rIbqq18jWS2L14DcAaqW534wHchNlHfr02ZU2-p3lowQRfPxQg7w5QR-RRl3kJljkO6wmFUtlhrY3Pfnas6hj46xRxDjzscYWPgy4bqsEH135jFxm0LYMVIPaj73ruDqOKI_ZNko19MHzUUsv1MbDcvecPdKAGohfcBiBRR-dUJP3_3vcykn3cI5hv5c_-j03jplc64fJF_gr5YwSxexQbrX_jMftvOxo-8awpLo2_-uteRdQjMHHdqEt4OkIAAAAAAA==


At this point you should be running cyclone and destroying act 9's blood aqueducts for fast leveling and getting a tabula rasa (if you want one or you can farm the cards and sell them for early league currency for the build) If you do not understand what that is, feel free to do a quick search. It's a very easy way to gain money at the start of a league.

I added in some all resist nodes too. With more experience gearing up, you might not need them and later can take the nodes off. completely ez pz.

This is what the full league starter ez pz passive tree looks like:

https://poeplanner.com/ABMAAQkAExAAAIG-vILkkBGKr0rIbqq18jWS2L14DcAaqW534wHchNlHfr02ZU2-p3lowQRfPxQg7w5QR-RRl3kJljkO6wmFUtlhrY3Pfnas6hj46xRxDjzscYWPgy4bqsEH135jF-967g6jiiP2TZKNfTB81FLL9TGw3L3nD3SgBqIX3AYgUUfnVCT9_973MpJ93COYb-XP_o9N46ZXOuHyRf4K-WMEsXsUG61_4zH7bzsaPvGsKS6Nv_rrXkXUIzBx3ahLeDpCe8MFtcLstMVirGyMnao2PW1sD6sWvyaVYeJVS4w2idNwUpLzm43TfgBeGY7tgwguAl-kDGDeqLt7bpchwXwh0KavHcIAAAAAAA==


The passive tree above is for an easy transition to maps and farming currency.

The gap between duelist and Ranger is achieved by completing your Uber Lab.


After you feel like you've done all this and you're looking to push the build into end game set ups etc, Look to more details in the 1st post about Ascendancy/pantheon and tips on getting Offering to the Serpent Gloves or soul tether and changing to Berserker/Raider if you think that route is fun. (I personally do. Both are very fun) or passive changes to optimize your end game experience after gaining some currency.



Tesla PROS: Awesome shoutouts to achievements by fans of the build. (Uber Elder included)


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Same1 Killing Uber Elder - https://imgur.com/gYz48o2


LucidSky Kicking Uber Elder in the Dick - https://i.imgur.com/9TvgQ3k.jpg



TheVengefulOne Killing Uber Elder in yet another variant -



MORE TO COME!




Last edited by Vashseden on Jan 22, 2020, 7:05:38 PM
Hey thanks for the guide! I'm just jumping back into PoE and this looks interesting enough that I'll probably be running this as my league starter. Quick question, what are the main differences/benefits between this build and a classic Slayer Cycloner (using Atziri's, Kaom's, etc)?
Hiya! Thanks for the feedback. I am still working on the guide. You will find the answer mainly in the ascendancy difference, however I can give you some extra difference as well. I'll even make a topic on it in the guide (Sorry for going slow XD )



2nd responder!!!

Build looks amaze balls, I like that its able to do end game content w/o a huge investment; WELL DONE!
Still working on the guide. Ascendancies / bandits / panth / leveling / and videos are all posted! I will add a Slayer vs Scion section or an F.A.Q. section soon and then get to the Streamer comedy!
Really informative build! Everything you need to know you include and the formatting is very friendly to anyone wanting to try the build!
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Onikram wrote:
Hey thanks for the guide! I'm just jumping back into PoE and this looks interesting enough that I'll probably be running this as my league starter. Quick question, what are the main differences/benefits between this build and a classic Slayer Cycloner (using Atziri's, Kaom's, etc)?




I have added your question to my F.A.Q. section

Q - What are the main differences/benefits between this build and a classic Slayer Cycloner?

A - Ok So I took each node from each ascendancy choice. Added each up and tried to take out everything that is similar to each ascendancy and only show the differences/benefits.

For Example: If both ascendancies get (+ number to something), I compare the difference and only post that.

Scion PROS:
+++ FIVE Passive points from ascendancy
+ The ability to save 4 MORE passive points going across the passive tree (No need to connect duelist to Ranger side)
+ +60 Dex (+120 Accuracy / +12% evade )
+ +20 Str (+10 max life)
+ 10% Movement Speed
+ 4% Chance to Dodge
+ You have Onslaught (20% increased attack speed, cast speed, and movement speed) while on full Frenzy Charges
+ 10% CHANCE TO GAIN A FRENZY CHARGE WHEN YOU HIT A RARE OR UNIQUE ENEMY


SLAYER PROS:
+ 20% MORE dmg if you've killed recently
+ 20% Culling over the 10% culling from Scion
+ 18% dmg with 2H over the scion's ascendancy
+ 20% Overkill Dmg Leeched as life
+ Bleed Immune while leeching
+ .4% Attack damage life leech
+ 100% increased Life leeched per second


Let me try to break this down to my train of thought.

The Scion while not getting a damage advantage through only the ascendancy passives, gains a MAJOR advantage in having 9 PASSIVE POINTS at your disposal to pick up dmg, life, jewel sockets, movement, attack speed, etc etc. Also, you are gaining 30% movement speed at the very least as well for some fast maps and fun times.

One major difference in the approach to each of the builds is the concept of gaining your health back. Slayer opts to really focus on Life Leech and to gain the most out of that (more leech/higher rate of leeching), Vaal Pact is the way to go. You can play w/ or w/out VP, I just want to clarify that is the goal. The culling strike is also plus for Slayer for sure in terms of just what it does to mobs and bosses.

The Counter point to Slayer goals: Leech life and Cull. Scion uses the Thief's Torment Ring with Life gain on hit. With the attack speed bonuses that outpace Slayer, the alternate source of sustain is enough to complete all the content in the game. The passive advantage also helps scion really outshine passive benefits on the skill tree over the Slayer to allow for more ways to outpace certain advantages the slayer would have over a scion. The Pure talent Jewel also helps gain very useful bonuses with some of the extra passives over the slayer having a harder time to travel, giving up competitive passive nodes in the process.

Example: If you were to compare a Kaom wearing Slayer to a Kaom's wearing Scion, the scion can gain the same level of health and provide more movement speed and damage overall.

This is not to say the Slayer is weak by any means. Both can accomplish great Cyclone Builds. I personally just like the zoom zoom and damage potential of the Scion more.


Videos and BAD JOKES have been posted. Feel free to watch, judge and lurk! <3

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Vashseden wrote:
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Onikram wrote:
Hey thanks for the guide! I'm just jumping back into PoE and this looks interesting enough that I'll probably be running this as my league starter. Quick question, what are the main differences/benefits between this build and a classic Slayer Cycloner (using Atziri's, Kaom's, etc)?




I have added your question to my F.A.Q. section

Q - What are the main differences/benefits between this build and a classic Slayer Cycloner?

A - Ok So I took each node from each ascendancy choice. Added each up and tried to take out everything that is similar to each ascendancy and only show the differences/benefits.

For Example: If both ascendancies get (+ number to something), I compare the difference and only post that.

Scion PROS:
+++ FIVE Passive points from ascendancy
+ The ability to save 4 MORE passive points going across the passive tree (No need to connect duelist to Ranger side)
+ +60 Dex (+120 Accuracy / +12% evade )
+ +20 Str (+10 max life)
+ 10% Movement Speed
+ 4% Chance to Dodge
+ You have Onslaught (20% increased attack speed, cast speed, and movement speed) while on full Frenzy Charges
+ 10% CHANCE TO GAIN A FRENZY CHARGE WHEN YOU HIT A RARE OR UNIQUE ENEMY


SLAYER PROS:
+ 20% MORE dmg if you've killed recently
+ 20% Culling over the 10% culling from Scion
+ 18% dmg with 2H over the scion's ascendancy
+ 20% Overkill Dmg Leeched as life
+ Bleed Immune while leeching
+ .4% Attack damage life leech
+ 100% increased Life leeched per second


Let me try to break this down to my train of thought.

The Scion while not getting a damage advantage through only the ascendancy passives, gains a MAJOR advantage in having 9 PASSIVE POINTS at your disposal to pick up dmg, life, jewel sockets, movement, attack speed, etc etc. Also, you are gaining 30% movement speed at the very least as well for some fast maps and fun times.

One major difference in the approach to each of the builds is the concept of gaining your health back. Slayer opts to really focus on Life Leech and to gain the most out of that (more leech/higher rate of leeching), Vaal Pact is the way to go. You can play w/ or w/out VP, I just want to clarify that is the goal. The culling strike is also plus for Slayer for sure in terms of just what it does to mobs and bosses.

The Counter point to Slayer goals: Leech life and Cull. Scion uses the Thief's Torment Ring with Life gain on hit. With the attack speed bonuses that outpace Slayer, the alternate source of sustain is enough to complete all the content in the game. The passive advantage also helps scion really outshine passive benefits on the skill tree over the Slayer to allow for more ways to outpace certain advantages the slayer would have over a scion. The Pure talent Jewel also helps gain very useful bonuses with some of the extra passives over the slayer having a harder time to travel, giving up competitive passive nodes in the process.

Example: If you were to compare a Kaom wearing Slayer to a Kaom's wearing Scion, the scion can gain the same level of health and provide more movement speed and damage overall.

This is not to say the Slayer is weak by any means. Both can accomplish great Cyclone Builds. I personally just like the zoom zoom and damage potential of the Scion more.




Thanks for the thorough analysis. Loving the style and format of the guide so far. I'm a huge fan of Cyclone but was getting pretty bored remaking Slayer over and over so I'm pretty excited to give this a whirl. We'll see how it goes!

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