Occultist Forbidden Power Channeled Spells

You will not gain power charges with channeled skills unless you stop your channeling and recast.

I.E. casting lightning tendrils for a total of x mana no charges. Stop and start the channeling again and instant charge.

GGG, please fix this bug.

Actually, if you channel only for a split second, mana spent no where near the 200 mana requirement, you will get a free Power Charge. We can probably exploit this.... but the play style is super lame.
Occultist sucks anyway, so.... don't really care if this is fixed or not.

This isn't a bug, so it doesn't really matter.

If you continually channel a spell, that only counts as one cast.

"Gain a Power Charge after you Spend a total of 200 Mana"

Channels likely screw with the logic of this skill. The way you're describing its behavior, hitting the cap for Forbidden Power sets a flag that grants a power charge on next cast, once you've filled the tank (spent 200 mana). Channels count as one single cast, or rather the act of channeling doesn't seem to count as casting at all if I recall some things Mark has said. Starting the channel is a cast - maintaining it is not a cast, it's an otherwise unrelated game state that drains your mana to continue an effect. In either case, it doesn't count as casting.

It's a little strange that the trigger is 'next skill use' rather than 'end skill use' or other ways of awarding the charge. Then again, the entire channeling mechanic is a bolted-on function that seems to do weird things to their code in a lot of cases, so hey. At least you know a workaround, I suppose.

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Aragorn14 wrote:

This isn't a bug, so it doesn't really matter.

If you continually channel a spell, that only counts as one cast.

Why does it trigger Arcane Surge if it's not a bug? Doesn't make any sense why they would intentionally do this.

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Aragorn14 wrote:

This isn't a bug, so it doesn't really matter.

If you continually channel a spell, that only counts as one cast.

I feel it's either a bug or the ascendancy node isn't written properly. It's worded in a way where one would think it would operate under different mechanics from other items that have similar properties I.E. Kitava's Thrist

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jskl76 wrote:

Actually, if you channel only for a split second, mana spent no where near the 200 mana requirement, you will get a free Power Charge. We can probably exploit this.... but the play style is super lame.
Occultist sucks anyway, so.... don't really care if this is fixed or not.

So wrong dude, so wrong, those curses are broken AF

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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jskl76 wrote:

Actually, if you channel only for a split second, mana spent no where near the 200 mana requirement, you will get a free Power Charge. We can probably exploit this.... but the play style is super lame.
Occultist sucks anyway, so.... don't really care if this is fixed or not.

So wrong dude, so wrong, those curses are broken AF

Try making a build that uses this power charge node and has lots of curses. You'll find it hard to get enough life or ES with so much tree and gear investment needed in curses and dps/crit (Not to mention stats to run all the different curses you want).

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dudiobugtron wrote:

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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jskl76 wrote:

Actually, if you channel only for a split second, mana spent no where near the 200 mana requirement, you will get a free Power Charge. We can probably exploit this.... but the play style is super lame.
Occultist sucks anyway, so.... don't really care if this is fixed or not.

So wrong dude, so wrong, those curses are broken AF

Try making a build that uses this power charge node and has lots of curses. You'll find it hard to get enough life or ES with so much tree and gear investment needed in curses and dps/crit (Not to mention stats to run all the different curses you want).

I didn't run the power charge nodes as i was CI but check out spidermanbutwithcurses on my profile, that is by far and away the most broken red mapper i have ever made its absolutely trivial to run any map regardless of mods, I did everything other than uber elder with said character too.