[3.7] Fivers Frostblades Raider ||| 5+ mil Shaper DPS ||| All Content |||
Are you like me, and want to see the build in action before you start reading?
Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubW2eK5RuCM
(New updated video - 2019-07-18)
My current character: https://pastebin.com/dH24wmrh
Want to learn how to craft weapons?
Here you go:
Or how to craft a Curse on Hit ring?
I have decided to start streaming every now and then when I'm online. If you want to get faster answers to questions, or just want to hang out, feel free to join me. Usually online some time between 16:00 - 22:00 GMT+1.
(Also, I'm sorry if you have to listen to me and my friends speaking gibberish in Swedish.)
Uber elder down!
- Made a new showcase video.
- Changed the top GIF.
- Updated my current PoB pastebin. 10M+ dps now.
- Added 2 minute Shaper video (full fight)
- Added video guide on how to craft a Curse on Hit ring.
- Added Uber Elder walkthrough video.
- Added gif on how to compensate for Multistrike not working in PoB.
- Changed the crafting section in the FAQ.
- Added weaponcrafting video.
- Updated some items in my current gear.
- Added Deathless Uber Elder fight.
- Added video showcase of Ikordan's MF version.
- Updated my current PoB Pastebin. 7.3M dps now.
- Updated my current PoB Pastebin. 6.5M dps now.
- Added Shaper's Touch as an option for gloves.
- Updated my current PoB Pastebin. Close to 6M dps now.
- Added video walkthrough for the passive skill tree.
- Removed the +1 curse setup.
- Changed the PoB to reflect some recent changes to the build.
- Added a Shaper video
- Added Hall of Grandmasters to the list of viable content.
- Added showcase video
- Added Uber Elder video.
- Changed a few things in the FAQ.
- Edited the Pantheon section.
- Reworked the entire gear section to be up to speed with the current patch.
- Added my own current gear.
- Major changes to the skills section. A couple of skills have been replaced or been put to use in different ways.
- Major visual changes throughout the guide, to make the guide easier to read.
- Added video of Red Elder - 100 to 0 in 3 seconds.
- Added Lethal Pride Jewel (Thank you MasterIJ).
- Moved around some items.
- Changed a little in the crafting section.
- Changed the debuff/curse setup.
- Changed the movement setup.
- Added Dash
- Added deathless Shaper video..
- Changed Tombfist from legacy version to the current one..
- Removed the Lycosidae version. The one with rare shield is better in pretty much every way now, since it's very easy to reach 100% hit chance.
Last updated 2019-07-10
Newest Version of PoB and 3.7 thoughts
Multistrike is currently bugged, so I have disabled it and created a flask that is meant to represent it instead. Not entirely sure how accurate it is, though.
Original Draft: https://pastebin.com/NycqQb0Y
My current progress: https://pastebin.com/dH24wmrh
Passive Skill tree
Video explanation for the passive skill tree, which order to grab what, etc:
There are still stuff that may change, so keep an eye out and import the newer versions of the PoB every now and then. Will update as things progress.
For everyone with questions, I am sorry if I'm not able to respond to everyone. I really try to respond to everyone, but I have limited time.
So please look at the FAQ before asking stuff, because most of it is in there.
This build is a Claw & Shield based Frost Blades build.
It utilizes a fast clear speed, high mobility, high evasion, and high damage to clear all the available content.
This isn't a tanky afk build. It requires a certain amount of skill in order to clear the hardest content.
Before we start the build, I want to give a big thank you to 1benjy1! This build would not be as good without his help.
Please read the guide thoroughly before asking questions.
I try to answer all the questions I can but I get tons of questions both here, in-game, and in private messages. I really don't mind helping out in any way I can, but it can be hard for me to catch every single one.
However, most of the times it's the same questions. So if you have a question, please check out the FAQ before you ask. And please make sure you've read the guide thoroughly.
Because there's a good chance that it may have been answered already. :)
Why are you using Avatar of the Chase instead of Avatar of the Veil?
With the changes to rapid assault and avatar of the chase, the onslaught branch in the raider ascendancy is really good.
Basically thanks to rapid assault, we will have onslaught up 100% of the time.
With the bonuses from that part of the ascendancy, and onslaught active, we will get:
30% increased evasion rating
40% increased damage
40% increased move speed
40% increased attack speed
25% melee evade
25% projectile evade
The downside is that we lose the immunity to elemental ailments, but I think it’s worth it.
I can't use "x" because I don't have enough strength/intelligence. What should I do?
If you find that you are lacking stats there are a few ways to deal with it. If you're lacking stats for a gem, you can always just use a lower level gem, at least as a temporary solution.
Another option is to take some of the +30 int/str nodes in the passive tree.
The ultimate goal is of course to get enough stats from rare gear to avoid both of these options.
How do you deal with Uber Elder?
Well, the first thing you need to do is learn the fight. Check out this video I made:
just for this fight. This will keep you from getting staggered/chilled/frozen, and make it a lot easier to keep moving.
You will need to move around a lot. Don't stand still too long.
Attack, move, attack, move, attack, move.
It's a really hard fight, but once you've done it a few times, it's not that bad.
Why are you using Bloodseeker as an alternative? Isn’t there better cheap claws for dps?
Yes there are. But Bloodseeker gives us instant leech. This is incredibly strong for survivability. It is one of few items that lets you facetank Shaper-beam.
Also the dps on Bloodseeker is more than enough for most content.
Why aren't you using a Touch of Anguish?
Well, ToA is a good weapon and I do have it listed as an alternative. It has very bad attack speed though, and that makes the build feel slower.
Bloodseeker isn't that much faster than ToA though, and it actually does less damage, but the main reason why I prefer a Bloodseeker over ToA is because the instant leech is just really really powerful. Against most content that you face, as long as you don't get one shot it's really hard for an enemy to kill you as long as you are attacking. Because you leech up to full HP almost instantly.
I do realize that a lot of people like ToA, and it is totally a viable option though. It's just not my option.
Why are you using 2 Fight for Survival jewels? You haven't taken enough dexterity to support them.
I think a lot of people are confused with the wording on this jewel, and I get why. There are threshold jewels that require you to have allocated a certain amount of dex/str/int within their radius in order for them to actually work.
Fight for survival is not one of those. The dexterity requirement on Fight for Survival doesn't have to be allocated. As long as there is 40 dex within the radius, it works.
You don't actually need to take the points.
What stats should I look for on Jewels?
% Maximum Life
Crit Multiplier with One-handed Melee Weapons
Crit Multiplier with Cold Skills
% Damage rolls. (Cold or Phys)
Melee Critical Strike Multiplier
Critical Strike Multiplier with Elemental Skills
Global Critical Strike Multiplier
Attack speed / Damage
+# to Maximum life
Claw cold damage
Claw phys dmg
How do I find a good rare claw?
Probably one of the most common questions I get.
I'm gonna be honest. Finding a good claw can be hard. We have an advantage in that we can scale on both hybrid and pure phys claws, but that also means that there are more search parameters to take into account when we look for one.
I've said earlier that a claw with only physical damage should be 330+ dps, and a hybrid claw should have 230+ pdps and 150+ edps.
But that isn't all there is to it. Depending on what type of elemental damage, it will need more or less. Cold is obviously the best option.
Another huge factor is attack speed. A rare claw with the same dps as a ToA, but 1.9+ attack speed, might still be a really nice upgrade from Bloodseeker even though it doesn't deal that much more damage (I'm talking maybe 80-90k dps more).
Because it makes the build "flow" a lot smoother. You move faster, you are stuck in multistrike less time, you get charges faster, etc.
It just generally makes the build faster and more mobile altogether.
Another thing that is a HUGE factor is crit chance. I see a lot of people with claws that have great dps but no "% increased critical strike chance". The crit chance is incredibly important and even master-crafted crit chance can make a 300pdps claw as good as a 350pdps claw that doesn't have it.
One option that I prefer to do myself is to craft my own claws. This isn't cheap and it requires that you know what to look for and how the process works. Most of the times this isn't even profitable. You are probably better of buying a claw to begin with.
But if you want to get a 70ex+ claw, I think this is easier.
If you are a newb at crafting, I've written a little guide further down in the F.A.Q.
It is by all means incomplete however, and just a general outline on how I do it.
Should I get 1 or 2 abyssal sockets in Tombfist?
One is enough. The thing we really care about is the intimidate which gives us 10% extra damage.
The maim that we could get from having 2 sockets doesn't really do much for us, but the 2nd socket also allows for another abyssal gem with potential for lots of damage.
Can I play this build in harcore?
I wouldn't recommend it.
I have heard that frost blades has low single target damage. Do you have an alternative setup for that?
Yes and No.
Compared to some other skills, frost blades single target damage can be perceived to be low. Personally I’ve never really felt that way myself though.
I don’t have an alternative set-up. I’m sure you can use molten strike or something like that, but I don’t feel that I need it.
If you look at the videos you can see it for yourself and determine if it kills fast enough for you.
Where do you get your leech from without vitality void? How do you sustain mana?
The node Soul Raker is the source for most of our leech, including mana leech. We also get some life leech from the node blood drinker.
Atziri's flask is another source.
How do I use Path of Building to measure my dps?
When you measure your dps, you click "configuration" and then cross the following:
✓Do you use frenzy charges?
✓Do you have onslaught?
✓Is the enemy chilled?
✓Is the enemy intimidated? (Tombfist)
✓Is the enemy blind? (Pandemonius)
Is the enemy a boss? -> Shaper/Guardian
Make sure your flasks are active in the items page by checking the checkbox.
Make sure you have Ruthless equipped instead of Ancestral call.
Make sure you are looking at the right place. On the left side, you choose Frost Blades under "Main Skill".
Also make sure you are looking at "total DPS" and not "Average Damage"
I am having trouble with Atziri's mirror-clone. How do you avoid killing yourself in that fight?
Remove Multistrike from your combo, and replace it with something like Melee Physical Damage (or leave it empty).
Put yourself in the middle of the clones, close to the one you plan on attacking. Best positioning is if you have the mirror clone behind you.
This way you shouldn't have any problems with projectiles bouncing on the mirror clone.
How do you craft a good claw?
Honestly, most of the times it is probably a better idea to just save up and buy one, but I usually craft my claws. It's a fairly simple strategy and it's really fun, but you will need a lot of currency.
For a detailed explanation and guide check out my video tutorial:
Step 1: Find a good claw with item lvl 83
Because the item level of an item determines how high tier it can get. To get a tier 1 roll for the mods we want on a claw, it has to be higher than level 83. But some mods (like resists) need a higher item level to roll tier 1.
The way it works when an item is rolled, is that the tier of the roll is determined before what type of attribute. With this knowledge we can exclude certain rolls.
Example: I have a level 84 claw. I use an alteration on it.
* First thing that happens is that it rolls the tier. I get lucky and get a T1 roll. :)
* Second thing that happens is that it rolls the attribute. I get +46% fire resist. :(
If I instead use a level 83 claw, and get a T1 roll, it's impossible for me to roll T1 resist. Because T1 resist requires itemlevel 84+
So the odds of getting an attack roll is higher.
Step 2: Use an Orb of Transmutation to make it magic.
Step 3: Spam Orb of Alterations until you get good mods.
Step 4: Regal it.
Step 5A: Bad regal? Start over.
Step 5B: Good regal? Finish up the crafting. Depending on what mods you have at this point, the process of finishing up is different.
There is one thing I never went over in the video.
If you get two really good prefixes when you regal a claw, but a really bad suffix, then in order for it to become a good claw you must first get rid of your suffix.
There are two ways to do this.
The expensive, but safe way:
You take the claw to the crafting bench and add Prefixes cannot be changed (this counts as a suffix). Then you use a normal orb of scouring on it. This will remove both the crafted mod and any previous suffixes on an item, leaving you with an item with 2 prefixes.
Then you craft Can have multiple mods and finish up the crafting.
The cheap, but unsafe way:
Use an Orb of Annulment. This is risky because it can hit your prefixes, but it's a lot cheaper if you succeed.
MODS WE WANT
Bigger version of the picture above: https://i.imgur.com/lrC4f37.png
Getting a good physical roll is the most important roll on a magic claw. A tier 1 physical roll is always worth a regal, even if you have shitty suffixes.
Added cold damage used to be pretty bad, but since the damage was changed in 3.7 it's actually pretty good now, assuming you get attack speed with it.
Attack speed is really the most important suffix.
Getting critical strike chance is alright but attack speed is a lot more important.
✓ Uber Elder Viable
✓ Uber Izaro Viable
✓ Uber Atziri Viable
✓ Shaper Viable
✓ Elder Viable
✓ Vaal Temple Viable
✓ Chayula Viable
+Fast clear speed
+Very good dps
+Constant onslaught and full frenzy charges
+Can do all content
+Really fun and intensive playstyle
+High dodge and evade chance
-Can't do elemental reflect maps
-Not very tanky (Can facetank a lot of stuff, but don't let your guard down).
-Will get expensive if you want to take it to it's edge.
PoB and Skill Tree
Multistrike is currently bugged in PoB, and doesn't accuratly display the DPS it does, so I have disabled it and created a flask that is meant to represent it instead. Not entirely sure how accurate it is, though.
Passive Skill tree
Passive skill tree walkthrough video:
Showcase Video vs Bosses (2m 18s)
Deathless Uber Elder (2m 29s)
Full fight is 2 minutes.
Full Shaper fight in 2 minutes (2m 16s)
Full fight is 2 minutes.
7 second Shaper kill
Killing phase 3 shaper from 100% hp (well, almost) in a 7 second burst.
Ikordan's MF version (2m 46s)
(T16 with MF gear.)
Passive skilltree walkthrough (13m 31s)
(from level 1 to 100 with explanations.)
Weaponcrafting Tutorial (31m)
Uber Elder Walkthrough (4m 30s)
(Itemization and how to handle the fight.)
Red Elder deleted in 3 seconds
Way of the Poacher > Avatar of the Slaughter > Rapid Assault > Avatar of the Chase
Rapid Assault > Avatar of the Chase > Way of the Poacher > Avatar of the Slaughter
Both are solid options.
Good damage and resists.
Major: Soul of the Brine King, Soul of Lunaris or Soul of Solaris.
Pantheons are very situational. That's why I can't just say one pantheon that is the best of them. I tend to play with Brine King most of the time, but the other two are really good as well.
Minor: Soul of Yugul, Soul of Gharukan or Soul of Gruthkul
When mapping, use Ancestral Call instead of Ruthless. Ancestral call together with Frost Blades is incredibly powerful.
This is how Frost Blades normally work:
The maximum amount of targets it can hit is 8.
This is how Frost Blades work with Ancestral Call:
When we use Frost Blades together with Ancestral Call, it adds 2 melee hits.
Basically, you are throwing 3 Frost Blades at the same time.
The maximum amount of targets it can hit is 24.
But here's where it gets cool:
Ancestral Call can attack in all directions. So you are not only throwing 3 Frost Blades at the same time, but you can jump into the middle of an enemy pack, and just explode them from inside in all directions, if you should wish.
And we're not done...
Let's assume we are fighting only 3 targets, and they are perfectly lined up for maximum destruction.
Here's how Frost Blades work:
Each target gets hit one time.
Here's how Frost Blades work with Ancestral Call:
The targets on the sides gets hit 2 times.
The target in the middle gets hit 3 times.
This is why Ancestral Call is so incredibly strong for clearspeed.
Yes, we get lower DPS.. It is extremely bad to have equipped when we are fighting single targets.
+ it can hit more targets
+ it can shoot in all directions
+ it can hit the same targets multiple times
I've noticed that when a lot of people send me pastebins, you have forgotten to compensate for multistrike not working in PoB. I add a little text to my diamond flask to compensate for it. Make sure you have done that before you check your DPS, if you want it to reflect your actual damage.
how to make one
Url to bigger gif:
Text to copy:
44% more melee attack speed
30% less attack damage
10% increased melee physical damage
50% more damage
Herald of Ice doesn't need to be linked to the other 2. We will have it in our curse setup.
If you can't sustain mana with a lvl 20 precision, just use a lower level one. Works really good even if you don't level it much.
Blood magic OR Reduced mana. Personally I prefer reduced mana.
Flame Dash is recommended to try to fit in if you have a free gem slot anywhere. Doesn't need to be linked to any of the others. It is really useful to easily cross gaps and other obstacles that whirling blades can't get you over.
Attack speed & Dmg boost:
Berserk and Vaal Haste provide an incredible burst for bosses and other big mobs. Try to make sure to have these up at the end of maps, and you'll have no problem melting through the boss. (You should obviously try to be at 50 rage, but that isn't usually a problem)
Keep the gems on low level to make sure it proccs as often as possible. CWDT should be level 1.
Some people try to fit in an enfeeble gem in the CWDT setup. It's up to you, if you can find the space or need.
Curses and debuff:
When you shatter an enemy, the explosion from Herald of Ice will apply Assassin's Mark on all nearby enemies. This helps a lot during legion encounters and makes the map-clearing a lot smoother. It also helps you keep power charges up when mapping.
If you can't use a high lvl frost bomb because of INT requirements, just use a lower level one. Same for curses.
Ideal would be to get "Curse enemies with level # Assassin's Mark on hit" on your rare shaped ring.
You can craft one yourself:
My current gear
_____________________________Gear in detail_____________________________
Old gear from previous leagues
Step by step passive-tree leveling guide video:
You can pretty much start with frost blades from the start.
Use something like Last Resort until you get to lvl 26, and then you switch into 2xEwar's Mirage.
Ewar's mirage is a seriously underestimated weapon. You can use those badboys up to lvl 70 with ease. They scale so good.
It is also entirely possible to just pick up good rares.
In order to get the most out of Ewar's Mirage, you need to stack some flat damage on gear. There are shitloads of good options for this.
Anything with Adds # to # phys/cold/light/fire damage is good. There are lots of cheap lowlvl uniques that are great for this.
Well, you get it..
If you feel that you are having trouble with mana while leveling, I recommend using Praxis rings or Elreon rings.
Last edited by Fiver on Jul 18, 2019, 12:13:36 PM
Last bumped on Jul 20, 2019, 9:07:41 PM
on Jan 28, 2018, 3:11:51 PM
on Jan 29, 2018, 3:12:42 PM
+New PoB link to match my current stats
on Jan 31, 2018, 12:41:00 PM
+Further updates and minor changes.
+New printscreen from PoB stats to reflect my up-to-date character
+Added and removed some videos. (Deathless shaper added)
on Feb 1, 2018, 7:57:00 PM
hi, i have tried gem link in your way:
Ancestral Protector + COH + frostbite
But it does not seem to work, I do not see the curse on the boss.
Can you explain me?
thank you very much !!!
on Feb 3, 2018, 4:23:48 PM
Right, I'm just stupid. It's not supposed to work with ancestral protector. I originally had it linked to Orb of Storms, but decided to use ancestral protector instead, without changing up the curse setup. I'll have to find some workaround to this.
Edit. Fixed the links and switched around a bit. Ditched warlord's mark, because we don't really need it anyway.
Last edited by Fiver on Feb 4, 2018, 11:46:08 AM
on Feb 4, 2018, 9:01:32 AM
Added level progression and ascendancy order.
on Feb 5, 2018, 2:56:13 PM
Previously u noted in your build to kill all bandits for passive point, but now u changed it for allira. Is it that much critical to help her as I’m currently lvl 70 and killed all of them. Thnx in advance.
on Feb 7, 2018, 12:03:15 AM
No it isn’t.
It’s basically a tradeoff between survivability and damage.
By picking alira you get some crit multiplier and all res.
If you kill all you get the same res, no crit multiplier, but a couple extra % chance to evade attacks. I have 2 skillpoints aswell, and for me, I think I get about 3% melee and 5% projectile evade.
Both options are good imo.
on Feb 7, 2018, 5:38:52 AM
Thanks for reply. Any suggestions about pantheon?
on Feb 8, 2018, 12:43:16 AM