[3.1] [Theorycrafting] Volatile Dead Hiero (?) Inq (?)
Hello everyone!
This post in not a build just a theorycrafting discussion, however if we manage to get something nice going i will try to make a nice build about it. The idea is to play around the new skill gem Volatile Dead that will be release in 3.1. I believe this skill has a great potential for map clearing and could possibly be great for boss killing as well. Step one At the start of the map use Desecrate + Cascade to get some corpses going: Step two Now that we have corpses we can start using our main new spell Volatile Dead : We can then keep using Volatile Dead using the corpses than we killed without having to use desecrate. If no corpse is available (for exemple during boss fight) we can always create some on demand with Desecrate + Spell Cascade. Possible BiS Items Body Armour : Carcass Jack (?) Ring : Sybil's Lament (?) Weapon : Doryani's Catalyst (?) Helmet : Hrimnor's Resolve (?) Amulet : Ngamahu Tiki (?) Possible Tree : Possible links (?): ► 6L : Volatile Dead + Cascade + Controlled Destruction + Elemental Focus + Fire Penetration + Concentrated Effect ► 3L : Cascade + Desecrate + Faster Casting ► 4L : Shield Charge + Faster Attack + Fortify + Increased Critical Chance ► 3L : CWDT + Summon Flame Gollem + Immortal Call ► 4L : Spell Totem + Unearth + GMP + Faster Casting Aura : Clarity - Anger Awesome post by Burmania " Let's make this work ! Feel free to share your ideas and thoughts about this theorycraft! I will be glad to see what you guys think! 12/8/17 : Edited the format of the post Last edited by nocx13 on Dec 8, 2017, 2:08:30 AM Last bumped on Dec 16, 2017, 2:27:39 AM
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I'm planning to play a Volatile Dead build as well, i just can't figure out which class or ascendancy to pick.
As for the links and game play, i think Desecrate with Spell Cascade will be a lot faster and more efficient for creating corpses. I do agree with VD + Spell Cascade + Elemental Focus + Controlled Destruction + Increased Critical Strikes (?) + Fire Penetration (?). The tree you've linked is incomplete when i open it. I'm on my phone right now, but I'll try to post my build when i get home from work later. My Supporter Pack list compensates for my small penis.
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Hello !
Thanks for your input ! I fixed the tree linked. You are right desecrate might be way faster that the the new gem Unearth. I'm looking forward looking at your tree! | |
" It works now! Looks good, but I'm still not a 100% sold on the totems. That might be a personal opinion though and not the most efficient way to play the build. We just don't have enough information about the gem yet. Also, if you're going Hierophant and getting Sanctuary of Thought, maybe it's worth going for some of the big ES nodes like Arcane Focus and Unnatural Calm? My biggest fear of self casting is reflect though. For example Atziri and Uber Atziri will be a big problem. I was considering Elementalist for this reason, coupled with Pantheon and perhaps Sibyl's Lament you could completely mitigate it? Edit: This is my Elementalist version. Not going crit might be a mistake, I'm not sure if the damage will be enough. Going EE so i can Shield Charge with some cold/lightning damage for bosses with a lot of hp. My Supporter Pack list compensates for my small penis. Last edited by Relidar on Dec 6, 2017, 8:54:26 AM
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" This is a very interesting tree as well! 3 links : Desecrate + Cascade + Faster casting 6 links VD + Spell Cascade + Elemental Focus + Controlled Destruction + Increased Critical Strikes + Fire Penetration 4 links Cast When Damage Taken + Immortal Call + Increased Duration + Fire Golem Maybe it will be wortth switching Controlled Destruction with Increased Critical Damage? I'm not sure about Elemental Equilibrium tho. 1) Isn't going to slow the clearing speed overall? 2) Isn't the EE efefct going to be overwritten by our Volatire Dead? 3) During boss fight isnt going to be hard to selcast Shield Charge + Desecrate + VD? Items : Carcass Jack (?) Sybil's Lament (?) Doryani's Catalyst (?) Searing Touch with Change to Ignite in the links (?) Hrimnor's Resolve (?) Ngamahu Tiki (?) Last edited by nocx13 on Dec 6, 2017, 9:48:53 AM
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" I'm honestly not sure if ICD is worth it either, you get a lot more out of CD. But like you said, PoB will tell us more! My way of proccing and sustaining EE is by only having added cold/lightning to gear and using Shield Charge to keep it up. Imagine any other build, you'll be using SC to get around either way. And once you get going you won't have to use Desecrate to create new corpses. I think it will be rather easy and comparable to the ED playstyle. Honestly, I'm still on the fence when it comes to Area Damage and Area Modifications, we'll just have to wait and see. Sybil's will probably be a must if you go self cast, no matter the ascendancy. I haven't really looked into uniques yet though, waiting for more details before i do that. My Supporter Pack list compensates for my small penis.
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I edited my post and added some unique that looks good !
" Sorry but i still don't get it. Isnt EE going to be overwitten with +25% fire res everytime one of our Voltile Dead ball is going to hit the boss? What about elemental overload? Could we use that? Last edited by nocx13 on Dec 6, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
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" The EE effect stays up for 5 seconds or until overwritten. So if you proc EE and then cast VD you'll keep the effect for that hit. EO is a good idea actually, i completely missed that. You could either use Shield Charge in a 4L with Increased Crit or just switch over to Orb of Storms. My hope is that VD is strong enough for fast map clearing and that EE/EO/OoS only becomes a necessity for high hp targets. My Supporter Pack list compensates for my small penis.
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Great, well we are getting somewhere! Thanks for the thoughts man!
Maybe i will make a new thread in Witch section since it looks like a better option than templar. | |
" Been wanting to theorycraft with this skill since they announced it. People are very against that kind of thing (for good reasons) when we don't have any data to work with though. Keep this thread up for now and we'll see what happens when we get more info? I'm sure we'll see more versions of this! :) My Supporter Pack list compensates for my small penis.
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