[3.1]White Wind (New dagger) Spectral Throw Theorycrafting
GGG has showed us dagger with insane cold damage - 420 Edmg. I have alredy talked with my friends and none of them liked White Wind because "You cant use off hand" - WRONG you can use Off hand, but you wont have 100% inc. cold and 20% chance to dodge attacks. So, why dont we just ignore that "off hand nodes" and use 2 of those daggers?
Here is link to pastebin, so far it looks Good - 225k Dps (Correct me if i'm wrong but if we do somthing like Average Damage x2 [Hit from start and returning] x Attack speed, we'll have our damage? If yes, damage is around 600-800k) on guardian/shapers with non OpieOpie gear https://pastebin.com/2sCaJh2m http://www.pathofexile.com/war <--- Check this link if you have missed it earlier, One of the new unique is dagger wchich I'm talking about And here goes question to you guys, what do you think about this idea, Spectral throw used to be broken in HoWa meta, can we make it great again? And what do you think about White Wind, maybe any sugestions for other skill with them? - I have been thinking about Cyclone + Queen of the forest (Each dagger has +300 eva) Last edited by piotrekplis#0307 on Nov 25, 2017, 8:08:31 AM Last bumped on Dec 12, 2017, 6:08:20 PM
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It might be really good for ST, Blade Furry or Frost Blades. But are daggers goood for cyclone? Since they dont have a good weapon range, how can they be as good as 2h weapons or foils?
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I donno, Maybe because of Increase are of effect And massive movement speed boost it could work.
Maybe CoC With Cospri's Malice? Combo White wind for cyclone damage + Cospri's Malice with Ice nova or somthing for MEME? I'll give it a try (spectral throw, not meme cyclone :v) as my starter, if I'll be able to do guardians I'll make guide for it :P |
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U should try flicker strike in ur Pastebin link. I have'nt changed anything in tree, can get more dps by respec 4 projectile nodes.
Potentially nice meme fun build. |
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I feel like this build could be good, but I feel like the dagger is just a place holder until you get something better- like scaeva or something. The base damage is good, but the attack speed and crit (whole reason for using a dagger- imo) are sort've meh.
I think this is a dagger can will get you to t10's without an issue, but I feel like the damage would fall off compared to a higher APS thrusting sword or a good dagger. |
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At first when I saw it I was amazed how much damage it had. After like 10 different ideas around that weapon went to trash I get it how bad it is. It could be a decent starting weapon. But on higher tier or endgame rare dagger/sword/claw would be a lot better and I mean a lot...
I just changed it to claw. And we all know that claw nodes > dagger nodes. Same dps and that claw is nothing special. At the end its same damage. Got around 400 hp and spent 2 less points. And 100% acc. Last edited by krofj#5332 on Dec 7, 2017, 2:21:31 AM
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I saw that and I thought it was amazing, if u dont use a off-hand u get 20% to dodge (Almost another ACRO) and 100% cold damage, which is really nice, because it can scale Added Cold and Ice Bite. I´m gonna try a ST build with that!
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https://pastebin.com/zPf26hmy
I want to necro this thread to compare it on a spec (gutter trash gear, no jewels because they're impossible to buy on Xbox) of mine from 3.0.0, a Raider that uses the mace Frostbreath and Sunder. That pastebin is my character import with the weapon swap set to a White Wind, with the mod changed so it works on PoB. I also made a new 5-link setup with a Cyclone that'll work with either the maces or the dagger. And interestingly enough, Frostbreath with offhand Doryani's seems to outdamage a solo White Wind even before the Frostbreath's pseudo-Hypothermia is applied, and the solo White Wind beats two of them. I'm kind of disappointed in this thing's damage potential compared to Frostbreath :P Last edited by Radetwo#0095 on Dec 10, 2017, 11:27:42 PM
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Inquisitor BladeFlurry, 2.3m (7 Abyss jewel) DPS with end-game gear (+ abyss unique bot and belt %100 increased damage possible)
Pastebin:
Spoiler
https://pastebin.com/JTNzzhzi
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