Bleed or poison?

Bleed or poison? And why? Which one have better output damage for endgame bosses?

In general, poison is better for bosses, bleed (might be) better for mapping.

Poison can have as many stacks as you can apply within the poison duration and so has the potential to deal much more damage than bleed, which by default can only apply a single stack. With gladiator ascendancy or Haemophilia gloves, the explosion from bleeding enemies will speed up map clear.

Poison everytime, almost impossible to make bleed do enough damage to be useful. You can get bleed to kill trash but any build with enough phys to kill trash with bleed has enough phys to just kill the trash.

Poison does require investment to be good however you can't just throw 100% poison chance on and expect to crush everything.

So its probably for low investment, bleed, for mid investment, neither and for high investment, poison

thank you for the information :D.

2 more question about poison stack

how many poison stack can enemy get?
example poison deal 100 damage per second, so if i have 2 stack that means 200 damage per second right?

There can be an unlimited stacks of poison on any enemy. Pretty much how fast you attack = how many stacks you can get.

You have to remember poison has a duration so if you can only attack 5 times in 5 seconds. And your poison lasts 5 seconds. Your max poison stack is 5 cuz you can't attack fast enough to add more stacks.

As for the second question, yes, unless the enemy is resist to chaos damage, 2 stacks = 200dps.

You also have to factor in that there are 2 boss's in the game that are immune to poison, and quite a few that are resistant to poison so if you go all poison, those boss's might wreck you.

Also, with the poison nerfs your average poison damage is typically going to be lower compared to the average 600,000 dps from any build.

Just keep in mind that poison is kinda at the bottom of this meta unless you got crazy items when it comes to killing things.

nobodies immune to poison anymore they have reduced duration instead (think its chimera and hydra have 50% reduced poison duration) and minotaur has the same but for bleed.

Poison can still do absolutely massive dps but you have to scale it appropriately and invest in it, you need duration nodes and to take the right damage types (phys and chaos) to maximise it, and a wither totem of course.

Thanks for the advice guys really apprecite it :)