(3.0)Theory Crafting RF scourge Necro - need help pls

Hi everyone,

playing poe a longtime, always looking of creating new builds. So i want share my idea for new build(havent seen anything simillar yet). Also asking for help.

Whats going on here?
Spoiler

The scourgehttp://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Scourge
Righteous fire aurahttp://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Righteous_Fire
Mind Over Matter passive(from 3.0 its also applied on degen)
Unique divination distillatehttp://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Divination_Distillate



Idea is playing Righteous fire aura build with necromancer ascendancy and the scourge unique claw to get high dmg from minion nodes.As wiki says its global dmg increase it should work with RF:
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Scourge

So lets say we have standart RF build. With 3.0 we will get extra life regen(bandits)and dmg reduction from 2 pantheon keystones.
To boost our dmg we use The scourge along with high minion damage(90% from ascendancy+70%from scourge cause we hit by shield charge - its perma dmg buff) another 40% dmg if consumed corpse recently(CWDT setup or selfcast) and atleast another 20% from commander of darkness(we use atleast clarity, puriity of fire).
Main advantage would be helm + 2 minion with empower and bone offering to get around 800 life on block along with almost maxblock(blockchance on gear or jews). Thats huge boost to survive. We get more times between hits to regen life. On easy map can be swaped for flesh offering to get more move speed and attack speed(shield charge)
With new changes of MOM applied also on damage over time, we definitely pick this? Why? Because we can finally use this awesome flask(degen should take mana from us):
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Divination_Distillate. This helps also with IIR and IIQ.


To prevent being out of mana for skills like shield charge, curse on hit setups or proccing elemental overload we can link blood magic gem.
This could be example of tree(its not so important now, so dont tell me its bad tree)
https://poeplanner.com/AAgAAQkACDMAAIHfsJLBjr4RLSycvOpqQwj07Ipr20yzl5VSU9Af7-s9XwQHg9tVxjpYfIPr7qcI2CRWSIUyly1JT7yqmuBFnVNSHNyPGriTKPqYrYLH-ehodNpiGFZBh7c-_grYvTWS_o9N46ZXOuHyRYPMPC2DX8auDF8cp1OlC2GvbGjyfA6nVVugQ8jwH6IABLPAZjwF73zE9q-nHM4rUA3N_lRQR-8OFCBfP_ZIjM89_FhjxFgn7QYO1HwJ9hku2WFXDdIhrY3Pfnas85toZfJBggfZfJ7NGj5-4unVeTlFfg5cavqf35o7gpvsOIV7ZlQ62CcvkFUaOJuKvk9Ijg3iFSeMseyD048AAAAAAA==

Rest is standart RF gear.It should easily reach 100% max fire resist with divination distillate up- 75% base +1% passive +5% purity lvl 23 + 14% flask effect(with passives and flask effect on belt, otherway 10%)+8% shield. This is for -max resists maps.
What gems are best? Gloves with more dmg with ele focus, increasing burning dmg and aoe or concentrated efect(boss swap)?

Whats your opinions. I dont care if standart RF builds are better or not, just want to know if this will work, because i like nonstandart builds. Price for block on hit, maxblock and extra dmg will be probably lower life pool with 236% passives only.

Im not experienced with RF, so will be happy for your responds.
Last edited by Styraxcz on Jul 25, 2017, 5:49:28 PM
Last bumped on Jan 6, 2018, 6:07:45 AM
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I never thought of using the scourge for RF damage. Fascinating Idea. Would the nodes behind MoM be very useful. most of the mana is reserved and I don't think you would need the regen?
Using scourge was not my main idea, its only best dmg source for necromancer and it is probably not better than start as marauder. Best 1h weapons do around 130% dmg so its not so big different in fact we waste around 3 passive points cause worse passive tree starting position. Main necromancer advantage is maxblock and 800 life on block.

And about mama and MOM. We will have clarity lvl 1 for ascendancy dmg and purity of fire only. I would use flammability on curse on hit setup with shield charge and fortify in 4link. Ofc we need glovea or rings amu withflat light and cold dmg to proc ee. So i think we should have quite high unreserved manapool.
Last edited by Styraxcz on Jul 26, 2017, 3:34:29 AM
everthing is fine, u theorycrafted well,gonna work like a standant marauder rf, dont think is more good than berseker but like u said u dont care, the only question is the cost of the build, since the scour and kaoms gonna be op and expensives items in league start, is just that.
Last edited by siclop18 on Jul 31, 2017, 4:22:35 AM

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siclop18 wrote:
the only question is the cost of the build, since the scour and kaoms gonna be op and expensives items in league start


Ty for feedback. Kaom is always expensive with new league, but its ok i dont need it in first day, same as scourge. Actually Im leveling and trying build in beta, dont have kaom there but will write how does it work.

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siclop18 wrote:
dont think is more good than berseker

Thought juggernaut or chieftain are better than berserker? Im missing anything? Like some autoheal CWDT + spell + cloak of savagery? or just for 40% more dmg and heal from warcry?

Thanks
For everyone who is interested. Today i reached lvl 72, leveling was slower than standart RF build. My gear sucks, only 5k life, no kaoms, bone offering only lvl 16 but i managed to complet uber izaro lab for first time on 72. Build is very tanky with quite good dmg, only manual cast of bone offering is boring
build gonna be slower without the scour and kaoms, both items are huge dps boost in your build, berseker do same job than your build, marauder can get easy more 3k life than your build and same dps with cheap gear is just that.

is some cost factor, u adapting one build with are designated for marauder to witch.
Last edited by siclop18 on Aug 2, 2017, 8:37:40 PM
I would like to try this build just for fun. Have some currency so I can buy scourge and kaom, but thinking about marauder vs witch, marauder has more life and more rf damage, we should exploit more necromancer advantage: a legion of minions!
So I would prefer putting a 6L instead of kaom, running with a spectre or zombie setup. We could give up 30% inc. damage while affected by aura ascendancy node, and we could get Soul Weaver; purity of fire could go on worm ring so we have 100% of mana not reserved and we can gain 60% dmg from clear mind jewel.

https://pastebin.com/hz2Z88SH

Did it to lvl 100. Here is my build and items and everything

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