[2.5] HoWA BF Elemental Raider - Hybrid 800+int./ CI 1000+ int./Pure life variant [SC/HC]

REALLY cool build, but only 6/10 because you don't use corrupted energy :D

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KeT_Brown wrote:

Hey, gonna try this build out. Any tough on optimal CI tree ? thank's mate

Something like this(I don't really like how some parts of it look like, The zone near Vaal Pact and Dualist area)

with Brute Force Solution jewel, without Valyrium www.poeurl.com/VTD
with Valyrium or/and Kiara's Determination (SC variant) www.poeurl.com/VTG

15/12/2016 Small update to screenshot section and passive tree

What jewels are you currently using?

So, as I leveled I bought a hand of wisdom and action that had corrupted the implicit to extra chaos on damage. I am worried that the normal implicit is actually more useful, especially with your take on the build. Do you have thoughts on the matter? (For what it's worth, I have gotten myself a third copy so that I can figure out what works best for me and make money off whichever I decide not to uses. So don't worry about me too much. I was just curious for your perspective.)

Curious what is your thought about ES version on reddit. That tree looks a bit messed up though but it does have unwavering stance for stun and freeze immunity. Should out dps this build and also looks like better survivability.

I actually took your advice and changed to CI cos it is honestly a waste to go for life based on 800-900 int. With a tabula and crappy gear I have 3k ES with 5k life.... basically first time I ever used ES during my 6k hour of play here and honestly VP ES is just not really balanced..... Kinda curious what do you think about the reddit ES build though.

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naderni wrote:

Curious what is your thought about ES version on reddit. That tree looks a bit messed up though but it does have unwavering stance for stun and freeze immunity. Should out dps this build and also looks like better survivability.

The tree actually is pretty good, I like the idea with Brute Force Solution jewel, without using Valyrium. ST is the same powerhouse as BF.

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naderni wrote:

I actually took your advice and changed to CI cos it is honestly a waste to go for life based on 800-900 int. With a tabula and crappy gear I have 3k ES with 5k life.... basically first time I ever used ES during my 6k hour of play here and honestly VP ES is just not really balanced..... Kinda curious what do you think about the reddit ES build though.

Well it’s kinda disappointing what the game cannot be balanced for so long. Sorry I think Rory must be fired a year ago, https://youtu.be/kgBjDH0O5DU?t=189 I have no words for dagger part.
I Like first post in this reddit post by Nepli:

“You picked up 66% increased energy shield on the tree. You're not wearing a shield because you're dual wielding the claws. Your amulet does not have flat energy shield rolls on it (astramentis amounts to about 23% increased energy shield for a perfect roll), neither of your rings have % increased energy shield on them, even tho they do have decent enough flat rolls, your chest is pretty good but it can go quite a bit higher later in the league, your boots are insane there's no denying that, your gloves could be better since they flat roll is shit and your helmet is pretty good but can also go up quite a bit and your belt is very good aswell. Note that no jewels have % increased energy shield on them.
You have in total about 1030 intelligence with the fertile mind jewels + brute force and all your equipments which amounts to 210% increased energy shield from int.
Without a shield and with only 66% increased energy shield pure nodes picked up, you have a 10k effective HP pool. Why? Because intelligence provides you with 76% of your total energy shield.
I have said this for a long time, intelligence is ridiculously overpowered in comparison with strength and most importantly dexterity. The fact that you're able to attain all of this effective health pool with so little investment on the tree boggles my mind.
Edit: I did forget to mention the 24% increased INT from the claws which would result in about 1280 int resulting in 250% energy shield from INT totaling 316% ES. You would still have ~~ 8,5k ES without this, it is a lower value but is still way above what any life build would achieve, with room for quite a bit of improvements in your gear.”

I like the design idea of Hand of Wisdom and Action but why the F*CK dexterity part is almost do nothing, why it’s better just forget about Shaper’s gloves and their f*cking 125 life, there is no way to make valid Hybrid Dexerity build and it’ll be better than it’s CI version. If bonuses on Hand of Wisdom and Action were reversed and Dex part gives added lightning damage and intelligence attack speed, that will be elegant design to use shaper gloves.

I don’t remember any life/hybrid build version that can beat it's CI version. Yeah, just simple combo - Damage - ES - VP - congratulation.

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thunderingice wrote:

So, as I leveled I bought a hand of wisdom and action that had corrupted the implicit to extra chaos on damage. I am worried that the normal implicit is actually more useful, especially with your take on the build. Do you have thoughts on the matter? (For what it's worth, I have gotten myself a third copy so that I can figure out what works best for me and make money off whichever I decide not to uses. So don't worry about me too much. I was just curious for your perspective.)

You can use LHOH on those claws to sustain your HP in hybrid version without using flasks in poison and chaos degen maps, It's not such a big deal, but QoL

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Damac0101 wrote:

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naderni wrote:

Curious what is your thought about ES version on reddit. That tree looks a bit messed up though but it does have unwavering stance for stun and freeze immunity. Should out dps this build and also looks like better survivability.

The tree actually is pretty good, I like the idea with Brute Force Solution jewel, without using Valyrium. ST is the same powerhouse as BF.

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naderni wrote:

I actually took your advice and changed to CI cos it is honestly a waste to go for life based on 800-900 int. With a tabula and crappy gear I have 3k ES with 5k life.... basically first time I ever used ES during my 6k hour of play here and honestly VP ES is just not really balanced..... Kinda curious what do you think about the reddit ES build though.

Well it’s kinda disappointing what the game cannot be balanced for so long. Sorry I think Rory must be fired a year ago,
I Like first post in this reddit post by Nepli:

“You picked up 66% increased energy shield on the tree. You're not wearing a shield because you're dual wielding the claws. Your amulet does not have flat energy shield rolls on it (astramentis amounts to about 23% increased energy shield for a perfect roll), neither of your rings have % increased energy shield on them, even tho they do have decent enough flat rolls, your chest is pretty good but it can go quite a bit higher later in the league, your boots are insane there's no denying that, your gloves could be better since they flat roll is shit and your helmet is pretty good but can also go up quite a bit and your belt is very good aswell. Note that no jewels have % increased energy shield on them.
You have in total about 1030 intelligence with the fertile mind jewels + brute force and all your equipments which amounts to 210% increased energy shield from int.
Without a shield and with only 66% increased energy shield pure nodes picked up, you have a 10k effective HP pool. Why? Because intelligence provides you with 76% of your total energy shield.
I have said this for a long time, intelligence is ridiculously overpowered in comparison with strength and most importantly dexterity. The fact that you're able to attain all of this effective health pool with so little investment on the tree boggles my mind.
Edit: I did forget to mention the 24% increased INT from the claws which would result in about 1280 int resulting in 250% energy shield from INT totaling 316% ES. You would still have ~~ 8,5k ES without this, it is a lower value but is still way above what any life build would achieve, with room for quite a bit of improvements in your gear.”

I like the design idea of Hand of Wisdom and Action but why the F*CK dexterity part is almost do nothing, why it’s better just forget about Shaper’s gloves and their f*cking 125 life, there is no way to make valid Hybrid Dexerity build and it’ll be better than it’s CI version. I don’t remember any life/hybrid build that can beat CI.
Yeah, just simple combo - Damage - ES - VP - congratulation.

It is basically the same tree as this build, just take unwavering stance and stack ES and int.
I like the idea of hybrid and also the use for shaper's gloves, it looks like in the reddit build there is not enough accuracy anyways. This is personal preference but I think I agree nothing can beat CI at this stage.

only 56 atm but is there a good solutiont o mana issues?