Raise Spectre - Weapon Choice - WhatsMoreDamage MATH QUESTION ?

my full passive tree / my gear revolves around a lot of minion damage.
i currently have 4 spectre/9Zombies.

Staff -> 48% Miniondamage & +2Level to (Raise Spectre/Minion Damage Support" 22 raising spectre /22 minion damage) Gems

Sword -> +1 Spectre/Zombie , +15% Miniondamage

what's more damage, does anyone know ? :X

dont know if a +1 spectre would be more worth than 33% miniondamage , when my main 6L would be raise spectre with bleeding (knitted horrors), and my second 6L raging spirits with bloodlust.
wouldn't know how the math would be.

What about the new summoner sword 30% more damage and poison on hit?

i saw it, but that isn't my question.
its probably a great dagger.

but i still dont know if 1 more spectre is better than the mentioned damage.
if it isn't even the dagger would be better, cause 3link is easier to get, so budget wise it would be faster to get.

so can anyone pls answer my initial question <3 ?

Actually .. go with femurs.

not for the damage.. frankly once you get to 4 spectres you are fine there .. but femurs has the minion life regen.

that right there is pretty useful for keeping your spectres up as it gives them around 4.5 - 5% liferegen in total..


plus if you are going full zoo and have zombies in your helm you can get that 18% srs duration and long duration offerings are always a plus...

i just wonder how you will sustain 6l srs on mana.... im on a 5l with 180 mana regen and i am linked at the hip to a mana flask when i get flesh and vhaste up


also 2 6l skills is gona put some serious gem pressure on your sockets .. i wish you luck

If your going from 3 to 4 spectre that one spectre is worth at least 25% more damage with 0 stats on your character sheet. Another minion that is receiving all the stats from your supports, stats, auras.

There is also opportunity cost you need to consider you'll get another 6L out of the staff but going one handed allows you to use one of the greatest stat sticks for summoners in the game. Victario Charity. Its 45% cast speed, 45% atk speed, 15% movement, 12% more damage, 600% iCritChance.

I would say that one item is worth like 80 nodes on the tree it's nuts.

The severed in sleep gives all your minions an extra link. Poison also double dips with Minion, Minion more, projectile, area, and general damage. That sword will effectively double those stats. Your Minion more gem becomes 100% for example.

Trdl; Severed/united in sleep + Victario Charity.

edit: I see your going SRS/Knitted

+3 bow/soulstrike + 6L Knitted in a chest would probably be the best balanced choice between damage and tankiness.

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+1 would be one level more, so look at the stats for the extra level.

33% more damage is likely a lot better

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Raise_Spectre

i didn't mean +1 level, i meant femurs of the saints staff vs queen's of decree.

thats not 1lvl to spectre, its literally 1 more spectre, that gets all the damage buffs etc. applied.

also had to mention, its actually not just 33% vs 1 spectre, its more like

15% vs 1 spectre .

because i just noticed, because i can use vaal summon skelleton with queen's i can get +20% minion damage on a +20% quality gem.
with a femurs i cant have this in my build.


how i roll currently ( i also have a staff with 2,4% life reg )



thinking about going:



so basically i would lose out on 15% miniondamage , 2,4% lifereg per sec , 18% more duration for SRS.

but get minion maxlife +15% , 191% more skelleton duration, vaal summon skelleton , 1 more zombie, 1 more spectre , +2 more skelletons.

seems kind of good imo.

will be knitted horrors (raise spectre + minion damage + greater multiple projectiles + physical projectile attack damage + pierce + poison) (2 blue + 4 green)
and that's also why i wanted to go queen's , its easier to get 2blue+4green on a dex/str item than int/str, so im also saving costs.

my chest is this:

If your going queen's decree you might as well go for queen's escape. The upgraded version. It gives a lot of minion movement speed which is great for srs.

wow cool man, i didn't even know that existed and i checked poe wiki :X.

it's really great. didn't expect the ~100% movementspeed to be so cool, my summon raging spirits are so fast now, and the other minions too, but srs is extreme with this , sonic spirits now :p

Like you said it's more about your gameplay style;

if you go more SRS the staff has duration and dmg over the sword as long as you keep skele up, making skele totem an option, although the reduced 20 cap on SRS eases this juggling act.

the extra minions and stupid move speed from the Fated sword mean you can have the extra spectre for more consistent bleed to make SRS more effective in your example setup.