[3.4] Fire Nova Mine - Perfect League Starter - Low Budget - FAST - HC Viable

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pernero wrote:
I loved your build up until I died during my first merc dried lake run because I hadn't equipped CWDT. Is there a method to detonating mines fast at bosses? Do I just spam click and D at the same time or is there more to it?

Also, two small questions about your skill tree:
Why do you take Fangs of the Viper? Is it for the movement speed?

On the volatile mines wheel, why do you take the 10%dmg+20%dur node instead of the 14% dmg node? Does the duration have a benefit I'm missing?



For bosses you want to lay down 3 clusters of mines, then press Detonate, now it's important that while you press detonate you already try to throw down the next mines. So yes basically you press detonate and right click (or wherever you have your mines) at the same time.

Fangs of the Viper was mainly to solve dex problems, and the move speed is a nice bonus.

About the volatile mines wheel, yeah hm, i mean it's 20% duration vs 4 % mine dmg. Probably you are right and the mine dmg would be better, but most of the times when I had the choice between utility and dmg I would tend to utility, that's also the reason why I picked saboteur. I always thought the damage is more than enough. But yeah if you wanna min max probably go for the 14%.


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dANNY187 wrote:
if i want to go from low budget to medium do you guys think doryani's catalyst would be a good improvement?


I just tested it out on standard. With the rare weapon I used in the guide and posted in the first post I have 3366 tooltip, with a doryani's catalyst (84% ele) I have 3092 tooltip. The doryani's is slightly faster for moving around though. I was surprised myself, but the flat (fire/lightning/cold) dmg to spell seems to be pretty strong. The rare weapon I was using was really cheap, like 5c cheap. So you could get a much better rare weapon.




Check out my Fire Nova Mine Guide (3.2) : https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774498
Last edited by KikosLive on Dec 16, 2016, 3:10:49 AM
I was in a group and someone had Disc Aura on and it boosted me ES like crazy giving way more "mana" to spend on FNM and not running out. That gave me the idea to run Disc myself. It does put you at 105% mana reserved so you have to get a couple extra nodes but it's so close to the ones we already get I figured why not. In doing so I have far more resources to use. This also frees up the two mana potion spots for other flasks. Here is the tree I am currently working on:

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAQN1BAcEswceCPQOSA6OES8RlhHCE4MWbxa_Fy8Yaho4Gmwd2SL0I18kqiSwJpUnLylPKwoyGDLRNj026TcXOlg62DwFPV9DVEV8RZ1JUUyzUlNTMVNSVEdVS1XGWAdYd13yXwRh4mJPYqxo8mpDbAtsjG0ZcFF2b3gvfOV-sH_GgKSCHoKbg9uIQow2j0aQVZErkyeVLpeVl5eX9Jo7muCbmpuhnaqdrp7En9-gQ6IApr6nCKyYswO0OLTFtUi3dbkGwFTAZsHFyQbVpthU2wvb5-Nq5CLlGetj6-7sOO087hXvfPAf8NX0cfaf99f60vv1

I also removed the Zealots Oath node because I felt with how little Life regen I get it's a wasted node. To the right of Eldritch Battery I also grabbed those three ES nodes for more and faster ES regen. Please let me know what you think. Thanks!
Last edited by johnnycode on Dec 16, 2016, 2:08:02 PM
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johnnycode wrote:
I was in a group and someone had Disc Aura on and it boosted me ES like crazy giving way more "mana" to spend on FNM and not running out. That gave me the idea to run Disc myself. It does put you at 105% mana reserved so you have to get a couple extra nodes but it's so close to the ones we already get I figured why not. In doing so I have far more resources to use. This also frees up the two mana potion spots for other flasks. Here is the tree I am currently working on:

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAQN1BAcEswceCPQOSA6OES8RlhHCE4MWbxa_Fy8Yaho4Gmwd2SL0I18kqiSwJpUnLylPKwoyGDLRNj026TcXOlg62DwFPV9DVEV8RZ1JUUyzUlNTMVNSVEdVS1XGWAdYd13yXwRh4mJPYqxo8mpDbAtsjG0ZcFF2b3gvfOV-sH_GgKSCHoKbg9uIQow2j0aQVZErkyeVLpeVl5eX9Jo7muCbmpuhnaqdrp7En9-gQ6IApr6nCKyYswO0OLTFtUi3dbkGwFTAZsHFyQbVpthU2wvb5-Nq5CLlGetj6-7sOO087hXvfPAf8NX0cfaf99f60vv1

I also removed the Zealots Oath node because I felt with how little Life regen I get it's a wasted node. To the right of Eldritch Battery I also grabbed those three ES nodes for more and faster ES regen. Please let me know what you think. Thanks!


Tree seems fine , except for that 10 int node next to Light of Divinity, and the 10 dex note next to Quick Recovery.

Don't underestimate zealots oath in combination with Stone golem.
Check out my Fire Nova Mine Guide (3.2) : https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774498
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KikosLive wrote:
Tree seems fine , except for that 10 int node next to Light of Divinity, and the 10 dex note next to Quick Recovery.

Don't underestimate zealots oath in combination with Stone golem.


Good catches, thank you. Messing with the tree I must've over looked those two nodes and you're right about stone golem. I was only looking at passives and gear.
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johnnycode wrote:
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KikosLive wrote:
Tree seems fine , except for that 10 int node next to Light of Divinity, and the 10 dex note next to Quick Recovery.

Don't underestimate zealots oath in combination with Stone golem.


Good catches, thank you. Messing with the tree I must've over looked those two nodes and you're right about stone golem. I was only looking at passives and gear.


The only prob is to recast stone golem all the time, it's annoying. But yeah discipline might be a good idea. Let me know how good it works.
Check out my Fire Nova Mine Guide (3.2) : https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774498
could you give me a non budget firenova mine build? id be very greatful
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could you give me a non budget firenova mine build? id be very greatful


I never played this build non budget, so I don't really know what I would change to make it non budget. I mean probably I would try to get a 6l Carcass Jack, ditch the Templer tree and go full crit. Also if you want it to be non budget, I guess you want to be able to do shaper, so we must find a way to completely solve the Mana Issue. So maybe Malachai's vision , which I linked in my first post, would be the solution, but that means you have to corrupt every single item. Corrupting a 6l chest needs some balls, though :D . If you manage to get your gear corrupted, get a lvl 3 enlighten so you can add Discipline to the 2 curses, now you have a nice mana pool with nice regen due to malachais vision.

If you don't want to corrupt everything go heretic's veil http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Heretic%27s_Veil, you don't even need an enlighten then and can still run discipline.


You could also think about going tremor rod http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Tremor_Rod and Kaom's heart. It might be very strong, but I personally wouldnt do that because you won't be able to shield charge anymore. Which makes the build so efficient.

Check out my Fire Nova Mine Guide (3.2) : https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774498
One more newbie here in trap build
Btw found this one http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cheap_Construction in stash
I think it fits ur build pretty well
What do u think?
Hope gonna get to the mapping phase, rest 2 builds failed in cruel and merc stages
“All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy.”
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spankywish wrote:
One more newbie here in trap build
Btw found this one http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cheap_Construction in stash
I think it fits ur build pretty well
What do u think?
Hope gonna get to the mapping phase, rest 2 builds failed in cruel and merc stages


nope ur gem is 1 more trap but we need mines here
So, after 2 weeks i have:
Gear



Still don`t use Eldritch Battery. I want to swap shield to armour/es shield, get 3 blue 1 green boots, and swap curse setup + enlighten, from mace to boots. Use Conversion Trap setup in shield for extra damage boost on map boss or some hard moments during map. Bomb Specialist in ascendancy + 12 mines give 96% boost. It gives around +230 damage to fire nova mine.


Tree+stats

Clarity aura on corrupted belt, +1 curse get from corrupted Shaper's Seed, Zealot's Oath from Geofri's Sanctuary.

87-lvl tree:
http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAOs2AABzBAcEswcetAwOSA6OES8RlpuhvooWbxo4Gmwi9CNfJKomlScvKwoyGDY9Nuk6WDrYhXs9X0V8SVFMs1JTUzFUR1VLVcZd8mHiYqxo8srTbAtsjG0ZcFF2b36wf8aCm4PbjDaQVevukyeVLpeVl5eX9Jo7naqdrp7En9-gQ6IApr6nCPfXswO0OLTFt3XAZsHF1abYVNvn42rkIuUZ62PsOO087hXvfPAf8NWsmPv1A3WRK1h3XwRTUkWdmuC1SI9G6-RfKkW5hHdUYqEv4XNmVOq6DXwRUDW5E4M3F2JPm5q5BskG9p8AAAAAAA==

All this setup give me this stats:


With active aura-curses i have 250 mana, that is enough to use Fire Nova Mine 3 times, with that mana regeneration rate. With enlighten + aura-curses it will be even more comfortable. Have no problems with damage or mana, but have some with surviveability, i hope shield boost on 100-lvl tree will fix it. Chaos damage especially hurt. Don`t try any bosses or T10+ yet.

Plans for 100-lvl tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAAQHBLMHHrQMDkgOjhEvEZbsVb6KFm8aOBpsIvQjXySqJpUnLysKMhg2PTbpNxc6WDrYhXs9X0V8SVFMs1JTUzFUR1VLVcZd8mHiYk9irGjyytNsC2yMbRlwUXZvfrB_xoKbg9uMNpBV6-6TJ5Uul5WXl5o7m5qdqp2unsSf36BDogCmvqcIswO0OLTFt3W5BsBmwcXJBtWm2FTb5-Nq5CLlGetj7DjtPO4V73zwH_DV9p_79QN1kStYd18EU1JFnZrghEjr5F8qRbmEd1RioS_hc2ZU6roNfBFQNbkTg6cr6QJLrhsl2VsqjY9Gm6H319-KSRs22PFsrJhca8Ntl_Q=

Last edited by Per on Dec 20, 2016, 5:39:09 PM

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