Occultist's Vile Bastion question: 2% ?!

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silumit wrote:

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1453R wrote:

Vile Bastion is basically immunity to death while mapping if you have enough ES to be an ES build.

How much is "enough" nowadays?

Start at 8k and go north. The whole idea behind ES is to eat (and then recover from) megaspikes that'd blow through and instagib a life build, so if you're not at least matching the highest-end life builds, you're ES-ing wrong.

I think, anyways. I've never actually successfully run a CI/Low-Life build. My one experiment so far petered out in the high sixties, likely just due to lack of funds/no experience with ES. Nevertheless, I very rarely see a serious CI build below 10k. Low-life tends to get more of a pass because Shavronne's Wrappings provides only moderate ES and it doesn't get a "More" ES node, but even Shav builds tend to want to at least match a Kaom's Heart life build for raw EHP. So 8k as a base 'endgame' mark for a geared-up 85+ character, with every point over that being for the better.

Remember, Vile Bastion and Ghost Reaver leech and all of that is based on percentages of maximum ES. The higher your maximum ES, the better things like Vile Bastion and Ghost Reaver are. A 15k ES with 2% Warlord's Mark leech gets more than twice as much absolute maximum leech-per-second at leech cap than a 6k life build, and Vile Bastion also regenerates two and a half times more absolute ES per second than the same percentage of regeneration on the 6k life build.

Now if only ES gear wasn't so hellaciously expensive in Standard...