lvl 90 ranger cant solo Atziri

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

I can't see your passive tree (mobile) but I assume with a mana pot and LGOH gem you've either decided to skip Duelist leech nodes for whatever reason, or are not playing optimally. I've never needed a mana pot at this point in the game.

Need more effective single target for Clone phase. Get a better single target than Frenzy, Traps are pretty easy or Blast Rain you can kite from farther out. 4L Frenzy with your gear takes forever to kill, and with Reach you probably risk nicking Reflect Clone.

Your links are inefficient and you didn't optimize crit on several pieces of gear due to Astramentis, which is a band-aid but overally lazy solution.

Is this an alt acct? More knowledge than a general month old player, but same common mistakes with generic copy + paste gear pieces that are hyped up way too much.

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ProfessorLeon wrote:

Your CWDT setup is jacked. You have to wait until you take 3k dmg for it to proc. You shouldn't have leveled those gems so high in my opinion.

Ultimately, this is a copy cat TS ranger build but you have the incorrect setups with gems and optimization. Take a look again at the guide from NeverSINK and see how your slots, gems, etc matches up.

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stalkingjackal wrote:

Have you considered a damage over time setup? It would need about 20-30 refund points, but the DoT spec excels at single target like atziri and uber lab, and also able to clear all maps easily. I could kill atziri under 1 min with my rotc poison spec when I was 80-ish, using only 5l reach without qual gems or extra arrow drillneck. You won't even have to worry about flasks much because its easy to get 50+ spelldodge, and you usually kill her in split phase faster than she can cast anything. Used barrage + inc. crit + pierce + PPAD + slower proj + poison with assassin class.

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

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Eolithmusic wrote:

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

I can't see your passive tree (mobile) but I assume with a mana pot and LGOH gem you've either decided to skip Duelist leech nodes for whatever reason, or are not playing optimally. I've never needed a mana pot at this point in the game.

Need more effective single target for Clone phase. Get a better single target than Frenzy, Traps are pretty easy or Blast Rain you can kite from farther out. 4L Frenzy with your gear takes forever to kill, and with Reach you probably risk nicking Reflect Clone.

Your links are inefficient and you didn't optimize crit on several pieces of gear due to Astramentis, which is a band-aid but overally lazy solution.

Is this an alt acct? More knowledge than a general month old player, but same common mistakes with generic copy + paste gear pieces that are hyped up way too much.

Thanks for the input!

-Sorry about the passive skill tree. It should be visible now. I just switched to vaal pact with leach so I just need to put either fire penetration or something else in the bow. Havent decided yet.

-The mana flask definitely needs to go. Should I just use a 3rd life flask? ive been using chaos resist flasks for bosses. Is it worth it to get a taste of hate flask?

-The only reason im using frenzy is to get my frenzy charges up when I run out. Is there another way to gain frenzy charges quickly then using frenzy? I just got enough fusing to 5L or (hopefully) 6L my armor but I want to make sure its the armor im going to go with. Im currently doing 50k damage tornado arrow fully buffed.

-The reason I went with Astramentis was to free up 3-4 passive skill points that were going towards attributes in my tree and not have to worry about adding any skill points on my rings. This seemed to make the most sense because you could only add 20%-30% crit dmg and multiplier on an ammy with some life and added physical damage depending on how much money you have of course. with 3 passive points you could add that much damage and a jewel socket for adding more damage, life, resist, ext... Are you thinking I should just make sure my rings and ammy have attribute points balanced with damage, life, and resist?

-No I just started playing a month ago. I used to play diablo 2 a lot and I hadnt played a video game in years. This game looked fun as a hell and it is!

Again thanks for your help!

Bow should be GGGBBR,most universal imo.

I forgot to ask, are you actually going for 100 Atziri kills? Far easier ways to do it than play TS (LA, for example, no change in tree needed just links).

If you can afford ToH by all means get one... I use Life/Diamond Flask/Quicksilver/Atizi/Basalt as a base setup.

If your goal is to kill Atziri I find Frenzy Charges a big hassle to upkeep, although I'm sure Frenzy Charge fanboys will disagree with me but I just take +1 in the Tree and that's the Evasion per Frenzy Node. In the specific task of running Apex of Sacrifice, your "fully buffed dps" doesn't mean anything, when you get to most of the boss rooms it's all about your base damage without buffs. Think about the phases, Vaals you gotta sit there and let them spawn, all buffs go away, Trio yeah I guess you can kill tittybitch and get charges off her demon spawns, Atziri you can get some charges off healing phase but for the most part if you aren't manually dodging flameblasts and stopping to Frenzy, just makes the risk higher.

I've always found my playstyle more successful to invest in Critical Strike Chance, even took Alira Merciless for Atziri farmers when Power Charge on Critical was still a thing. It's just so much easier to do it that way.

For Astramentis, I did understand why you were using it. It is much easier to go into Duelist, get STR Nodes from there, and use:

To get your Int that way, for temp league anyways. Real amulet instead of Astramentis is huge, no 3-4 Passive Points can combine for Flat Phys, +Life, and Crit modifiers as high as you can get on a Rare Amu, period. Even a Rare Jewel needs at least 2 Passive Points and good ones this league for Phys Bow are through the roof right now.

And lastly, I only asked about the gearing because common trend I observe with new bow players is a cycle of death that some of the guides here set you up for failure, for example:

- Drillneck is op
- Get Rat's Nest and Maligaro
- Get Daresso cuz cool
- Some guides say get Atziri Step

So new player buys all these items, net effect:

- Lose ~60%+ Global Critical Strike Chance and more from using Drillneck instead of good Spike-Point Quiver
- Buy 3-4 piece of gear with no resists
- Gets forced to use shitty Jewelry forever
- Gear locks them because upgrades are fucking expensive if you go that route, for example if you want Diamond Rings with WED/t1-t2 Flat Phys and good Resists, it's like 2 exa+ this league already

Overall you made good gearing decisions on Belt and Boots, drop Maligaro for Rare Gloves and upgrade to Diamond Rings. The gloves aren't worth it anymore imo with Crit Multi changes.

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

If you are gonna stick with TS, then you have to use something like Blast Rain imo for Single Target, which I've never really liked because it makes you stand still for a split second (thus Atizi Spears or even short duration Flameblasts have a higher chance of hitting you).

Have you tried Lightning Arrow? It is flavor of the month, but also incredibly powerful, the only single target spell you need is Frost Wall + Spell Echo. Essentially Lightning Arrow pierces through the Frost Walls, creating more "additional hits." YouTube a video for demonstration, as it is more difficult to explain by text.

You don't have to change anything in your gear to support a switch to Lightning Arrow. Only change is you need BB somewhere for the Frost Wall combo. It also lets you free up chest slot for something like Kaom's Heart. If you want to use Evasion based equipment, Coil is okay but largely messes with your Resistances. Kintsugi would be my choice in Prophecy, especially because it is available by completing Deadly Rivalry Prophecy chain.

I started this league with Templar Inquisitor using Reach, basically just a generic Bow Tree but taking advantage of the Ascendancy. Easily adaptable to Ranger, since I wound up making an alt Ranger to use the exact same gear. With Raider, I did the remaining 50 Atziri Runs I needed for the challenge, starting at Level 68 when I could use all my gear. When I hit closer to my end game tree the setup could do Atziri Runs in about 4-5 minutes each depending on Trio fight and/or Atziri phases.

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serge007 wrote:

Thanks for valuable comments @Saranghaeyo_. Pardon my ignorance - I am a very casual player - but how can I see your gear? Could not find it in your profile. Thanks!

You can see gear in my signature (2.3 LA Inquisitor). I just put it on a Ranger body using the tree in my previous post.

You don't need fancy stuff like +1 Curse Amu, but the concept is there. Dual Curse is just a nice luxury honestly, but very useful.

I choose in my tree to optimize Crit Chance instead of go for raw damage passives, because I find that shattering mobs with Hatred/HoI and knocking back with King of the Hill passive is far more important than tooltip DPS with low Crit Chance. Plus, I think fully buffed while mapping I break 90K LA anyways, basically one shots most mobs up to T14 unless you roll +60% Lightning Resistance on a map.

You can basically adjust tree however you feel you want to play. Gotta feel out your playstyle.

For example, good friend of mine has similar gear, but basically tree goes in a different direction.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1682118

Both builds are very powerful, yet approach the game from different angles. It's really up to you to find the playstyle you like. I can just say from playing Bow Builds since Torment League that once I started optimizing Crit Chance, that I found the most success (personally)