Kintsugi Exquisite Leather mechanics could be better
The New "Kintsugi Exquisite Leather"
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![]() To start with it, GOOD ITEM WITH FUN MECHANICS! NICE MOVE GGG! :DDD HOWEVER!! I was really hoping they made it like: "You take 20% less damage when hit for 1.5 sec if you have not been hit recently" instead of the current: "(20)% less Damage taken if you have not been Hit Recently" "(50)% increased Evasion if you were Hit Recently" My reasoning being: Especially true for evasion builds is, since the things that really do kill you are either: 1) '1 big hit' 2) 'A lot of small hits chained in a row in less than 1 sec (a.k.a Insta-Gib)'. The 0.5 sec is just for latency compensation, since you know, not everyone has top tier high speed internet connection. Of course my numbers are purely my suggestion, maybe GGG can have a better go at it. My Opinion: The current one still relies on RNG and to me things that relies on RNG for mitigation is not good mitigation. Since, this is an armour that is supposed to take some of the heat off evasion builds and is a potential in increasing damage mitigation diversity, you know not "lightning coil or gtfo" kinda mitigation. Some might think that since the "less damage taken" is applied to both physical and elemental damages, it is fair. However, since that it last a very short time and you really need to get out of harms' way to get the effect back on (4 sec is a long time in POE), it is balanced IMHO. I am already sacrificing my armour slot depriving it of potential resistances and higher life rolls. AND if I plan to use this item, I already have shit tons of evasion, why need more evasion when you could had given me some time window to take hits as I get away from that crazy mob/ monster damaging me. Evasion has diminishing returns for goodness sake. This item could have been the potential replacement for Lightning Coil, but flops because GGG didn't want to give it a better, more deterministic damage mitigation and it is a fucking "Prophecy League ONLY Unique". >.> Cheers GGG, good diversity. TLDR : 1) Mechanics could be a very short time duration damage mitigation to counter "Instagibs" instead of just the initial hit. 2) This item could have been the potential replacement for Lightning Coil but "initial hit only" and "limited to Prophecy League Only" makes it so useless and doesnt add to diversity. Last bumped on Feb 8, 2017, 1:14:49 AM
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Did you try it out yourself?
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
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I think it's actually a very good chest. Haven't tried it yet but can't wait to get my hands on it.
It's for high EV builds that can either recover HP very fast, or have very high dps. Stack it with artic armor - I believe the two damage reductions from AA and Kintsugi will be multiplicative. |
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" Since Both Arctic Armour and Kintsugi has the "Less" damage modifier they should indeed add each other for a total of 33% Less damage at AA lvl 20 Curious note: even enfeeble has a 30% less damage mod on level 20, so with the two above and enfeeble it's possible to have 63% less damage Add a 30% curse effect from tree and 10% from blaspemy and enfeeble grants 42% less damage for a total of 75% less damage |
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Kinda strange that the evasion on that chest is pretty mediocre, it could use a bit more HP as well.
It looks underbudgeted with stuff like Lightning Coil around that doesn't rely on RNG and gives more HP too. Then there's Hyrri's Ire which is pretty solid as well. Nice concept though, but I feel like the designers held back for some reason. It needs testing I guess. |
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" Like I mentioned, it really sounds and looks good, but for most of the part, chances are you are already invested in evasion if you are going for this armour, and the most glaring weakness of evasion is, when you do take damage, you take it so hard, you shit your pants. That is why there are not too many people playing evasion melee in HC leagues. To elaborate on my TLDR: The armour needed some kind of time duration as you need time to react, and not all the people who play this game have ping <300ms, so if you think about it, having a timer on it, be it 1 sec is actually fair game. And it surely feels better and give you a 1 sec time window to react to the damage. Heck, they can even make it, "Cannot be stunned for 1 sec for every frenzy charges you have" to make it so that you can either tank or just run away :DD Anyway, I really wanted this to have 3D art, finally a samurai in POE!! |
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" Like all other less and more effects, they are not additive to 33%! You will take 0.87*0.8 = 0.696 so its like 30% less damage, and enfeeble reduces monster damage, not the damage you take (directly)! Additive things are like projectile weakness, shock, abyssus, vulnerability... those are increases to damage taken, there are some sources of reduced damage taken such as gladiator's full endurance charge, or leo craft/assassin reduced damage from DoTs and stuff. Regardless, this chest is ridiculous! A lot of people seem to be misunderstanding the chest! The chest is not necessarily for only 'the first hit' of a fight! It's essentially any hits taken within the first 4 seconds after the first hit! Then after not taking a hit for 4 seconds, it restarts again like that. So you essentially have overlap: immediately after you take a hit, not only do you take 20% less damage, and you have 50% increased evasion for up to 4 seconds! Edit: Wait nevermind upon reading it again it is for first hit i think. Ignore that lol. I guess I was thinking of 'if you have !(been hit) recently' (lol) instead of '!(recently have been hit)' if that makes sense... Last edited by biyte#7917 on Jun 16, 2016, 3:43:19 AM
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Pretty cool item.
Against the "insta gib" phenomenon that the OP is talking about; CwdT + IC will fit that 0.5+ sec for you. Now since spells also hit in PoE, if you take a fireball, it should trigger it right ? It looks like it, and that makes the chest look not as good as one would think. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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I really hope this item doesn't remain league exclusive, something potentially build-enabling should always be available.
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Nah, you're not supposed to stand there. That shit is really good already. Fucking saved me from uber izaro hits and uber argus hits, so yeah, it is insane how it is, if you complain, i'm afraid they will nerf it instead, just enjoy the LC rip to this for evasion builds.
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