Consuming dark almost useless now?
" Nah, you misunderstand. ED/contagion builds are strong enough on their own. The poison from the dagger merely helps on single target (and on bosses). This guy explains it pretty well in his guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1640967 |
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I did misunderstand, but what I misunderstood was the bit where I said "Unfortunately spell damage doesn't double-dip on the poison."
In that guide you linked, it says that it does. (Because Essence Drain makes all DoT from the skill get increased by spell damage, not just the default DoT.) Since spell damage double-dips the poison, I now understand why it is strong. Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756 |
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Yea when I first picked up that weapon on my ED/Contagion character, the difference was huge.
Now that the weapon is gonna be cheaper, I'll pick it up next league. |
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Gotta wonder if it's still gonna be worth picking up chaos damage passives on the tree though, with only 60% conversion from dual wield. Opinions?
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" I didnt say buff raw power, but it needs something else in exchange for what it has lost. Item has no worthwhile stats on it aside from poison and conversion. Conversion is nerfed to 30% and poison is nerfed harder because of poison's exponential mechanic. Now it has to be dual wielded, which means its a no go for ES builds(well you can but very inefficient), and even with 60%, chaos damage on tree is barely worth the investment and significant chunk of your damage will be delayed. So essentially you give up great deal of survivability and more importantly flexibility for ... having easier time on reflect mod maps? Most of my builds(and i almost exclusively play elemental) only require a simple gem swap, no need for anything drastic. Btw people should read the original post before commenting, i did agree with chaos conversion nerf, but it was what this item was about so it needs a buff in other areas. Something else should be given or ggg would have kiled the item. |
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" i did calculate, its barely worth it. at +300%chaos damage you deal almost %20 extra damage, at 200% its less than 10%. But your clear speed will be less since poison deals that damage over 2 seconds and significant portion of your damage will be poison. And i do not recommend going Mantle+2CD, your defenses will suck. Its much better to go doryani+shield+shavs which i will revert to it seems. I really want to use a dagger though, hate using leap slam truly, and if i do LW i wont have fortify :/ |
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There are a few hundred almost useless unique items in this game. Why not comment on the rest?
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" Consuming dark isn't "almost useless" it's "useful but no longer OP" I'm still considering running a double consuming dark + pyre ice trapper in the next league, but just unsure if I should be investing into chaos damage passives, or if I should use my remaining points to buff up defenses. Won't be going mantle though, that's why it's only at 60% conversion. |
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For trapper I think cold pen and real daggers will be the way to go. Even self mades like this will destory CDs
Self caster still has 60% damage not even touching you on reflects plus the chaos conversion bonus which is like pen gem. again will be a "option" instead of "go to." Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on May 23, 2016, 11:43:56 PM
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" Minimum of 2 ex to craft though, not to mention the amount of alts/regals you're gonna need to spend. Depends on what you want I guess. I'm just going for a cheap (consuming dark would probably cost 30c due to nerf? next league), vaguely facerolly build to do challenges with. Trappers want the consuming dark for poison on single target bosses I believe. |
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