Consuming dark almost useless now?

Let me start by saying i agree with chaos conversion nerf, it totally deserved it, chaos could get 240% extra damage from tree on top of natural element, was reflect immune, and saved you penetration setups so you can use different gems&curses(albet less effective on dedicated setups).

However i think consuming dark lost all its power because of serial nerfs, since when it first came out it was 75% and that made poison affix very strong. Now its down to 30% by its own, poison is worthless, and reflect protection is only as good as sybil's lament(and noone ever touches that item). In new leagues even with huge sacrifice in survivability(2cd+infmantle) we can only get up to 75% which i think for the most part wont worth it, so it needs buff in somewhere else to survive the huge nerf. I do hope GGG considers this aspect of it before releasing the patch. We dont really have really good unique non-crit caster daggers and i hate to lose the only one i can use.

It's still a great unique with no downside to it.

You get crit, spell damage, conversion to chaos, and free chaos poison.
With no negative impact to your build.

People are still going to be using these. These chaos meta items and abilities are still going to be very strong.

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e1337donkey wrote:

It's still a great unique with no downside to it.

You get crit, spell damage, conversion to chaos, and free chaos poison.
With no negative impact to your build.

People are still going to be using these. These chaos meta items and abilities are still going to be very strong.

It's okay. If GGG dropped the value of item from 100% to 99%, people would be coming here freakin' out about how it's useless.

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e1337donkey wrote:

It's still a great unique with no downside to it.

You get crit, spell damage, conversion to chaos, and free chaos poison.
With no negative impact to your build.

People are still going to be using these. These chaos meta items and abilities are still going to be very strong.

Agreed. It's still a good item. The chaos part of it was nerfed, and won't be as useful as previously intended, but it's still a pretty solid Dagger.

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e1337donkey wrote:

It's still a great unique with no downside to it.

You get crit, spell damage, conversion to chaos, and free chaos poison.
With no negative impact to your build.

People are still going to be using these. These chaos meta items and abilities are still going to be very strong.

and please do tell me without conversion how many direct damage chaos damage dealing spells are there? So without poison affix it only has mediocre roll spellpower aaand that is it. such daggers are 1 chaos mate. even divinarius has like aoe increase and good crit and more sp. Unless they add to a game a DD chaos spell that dagger is worth 1 chaos now.

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Fistaniderya wrote:

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e1337donkey wrote:

It's still a great unique with no downside to it.

You get crit, spell damage, conversion to chaos, and free chaos poison.
With no negative impact to your build.

People are still going to be using these. These chaos meta items and abilities are still going to be very strong.

and please do tell me without conversion how many direct damage chaos damage dealing spells are there? So without poison affix it only has mediocre roll spellpower aaand that is it. such daggers are 1 chaos mate. even divinarius has like aoe increase and good crit and more sp. Unless they add to a game a DD chaos spell that dagger is worth 1 chaos now.

I'm not sure why you would measure how great an item is while disregarding some of its properties.
If the spellpower and crit had higher numbers, it would push rare daggers further out of being useful.
The point is you can still get some crit, spell while altering your damage to another source.

You can use this new chaos damage and try to scale it and focus on poison. Or simply use the
conversion as a form of mitigation for reflect. Even a small conversion mitigates quite abit since
your resistance are still 75%. Or you can go full dual wield with or without Infernal Mantle. Then get most of your damage to chaos and focus on that.

The point of the unique is to enable diversity in builds. Not be the end all be all. A well rolled
rare dagger will give you more damage. But then you have to find other ways to mitigate reflect or just avoid it all together. That in return reduces the maps you can run which forces you to spend more currency just to play the game.

So yeah, the dagger is nerfed but it has use in the game. Whether its worth 1ex, 30c or 5c... doesn't take away from what the item can do for your character.

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Fistaniderya wrote:

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e1337donkey wrote:

It's still a great unique with no downside to it.

You get crit, spell damage, conversion to chaos, and free chaos poison.
With no negative impact to your build.

People are still going to be using these. These chaos meta items and abilities are still going to be very strong.

and please do tell me without conversion how many direct damage chaos damage dealing spells are there? So without poison affix it only has mediocre roll spellpower aaand that is it. such daggers are 1 chaos mate. even divinarius has like aoe increase and good crit and more sp. Unless they add to a game a DD chaos spell that dagger is worth 1 chaos now.

I remember times when Divinarious was like 5c... Metas change, get used to it.

It's still gonna be strong for ED/Contagion builds. That poison damage is great for single target.

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tsunny wrote:

It's still gonna be strong for ED/Contagion builds. That poison damage is great for single target.

Unfortunately spell damage doesn't double-dip on the poison. Also, Contagion doesn't spread poison. You could probably make an ED/poison build around it - losing some damage to effectively get a free 7L on your ED, but ED base damage is low anyway so it's not that great to use poison with anyway.

No way. there is always two consuming darks... chaos trapper will still be OP as fuck since they dont even reflect. self casters probably have to take in Life leech gem

Now it's like an option instead of all-chaos-all-the-time with fire or cold (or lightning with voltaxic)

good nerf