[Leech + Slayer's Endless Hunger + The Retch] mechanics

Can we get some clarification on endless hunger and the retch?

By 'life leech effects are not removed at full life', this means that once we reach full life, the leech continues to 'apply' however, any new leech gained whilst at full life will no longer add to the pool because you cannot leech at full life.

So I presume this means The Retch's chaos damage will only trigger so long as you continue to lose life, allowing the leech to continue to activate. However, Endless Hunger will still deal the 'full' leech amount as damage regardless of how much is actually healed right?

Could this theoretically allow constant Retch damage through small damage over time effects such as blood rage? I.e., if I was taking 1 life damage per second, then the leech can keep refreshing itself every second, applying both the full amount healed back and the full Retch damage over time.

Finally, how does all this work with instant leech effects such as
I presume it sets the life leech rate to instantaneous, thereby removing Endless Hunger's cannot be stunned and Brutal Fervor's bonuses but how would it work with The Retch's damage? Does it instantly apply all the leech damage? Only the amount recovered?

Surely there's something to this because so far the Champion just seems so far superior to the Slayer it isn't even a choice.

Thanks

I think the amount of leech gained from one hit, is applied at the same hit with the belt.
then if you attack with the flask active,

flask active>hit(leech)>Leech applied as damage> leech gained instantly

you still do the full damage

I was under the impression that with Endless Hunger leech instances persist even while on full life, therefore when you take a damage they are still present and healing you.

Like, I was pretty sure that is the whole point of the node?

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Vipermagi wrote:

Leech effects persist, yes - instant Leech effects also immediately end though. They can only persist for as long as they have a duration.

Thanks, I was about to question my choice of ascendancy points if leech instances didn't persist.

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Vipermagi wrote:

Leech effects persist, yes - instant Leech effects also immediately end though. They can only persist for as long as they have a duration.

As for how the Retch works, who the fuck even knows. I haven't heard two congruous answers, but at least six that would be mutually exclusive.

So if the leech still has duration from the first time you lost life, then it will continue healing as soon as you lose life again. However, just to confirm, if you hit something at FULL life, it will not leech at all, right? You actually need to have lost some life for it to kick in.

So I presume having constant 6700/6708 life from blood rage can pretty much make you leech on every single hit for the full amount - unless you leech so much it counteracts the blood rage completely by putting you on full life, in which case any hit made at full life will not leech.

And it seems the jury is still out on The Retch, we'd need Mark or GGG to comment on that. I'd test it myself but I don't particularly want to use 10 regrets.

You still leech life on full life, it's just that without endless hunger the leech instance will turn off as soon as you hit full life aka it will expire instantly.

With endless hunger you are stacking leech instances even on full life, it's the reason I only run 1 life flask on my 2h duelist.