Ways to proc self damage other than Scolds? Is there any way to do it?

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I looked it up, and there used to be a way to do it with casting punishment on yourself, but they changed punishment so now it doesn't have that effect :( So what now?

About the only other one I can think of.

Does minion expiry = minion death though? That seems like a limited way in which you could proc VMS with it... Especially if you can get the rythmn going, it might be a really cool way to do it. Assuming you can heal off of the leech effectively.

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Dhanvanthri wrote:

Does minion expiry = minion death though? That seems like a limited way in which you could proc VMS with it... Especially if you can get the rythmn going, it might be a really cool way to do it. Assuming you can heal off of the leech effectively.

Minion death is when the minions take damage until they die, even one shots and stuff

Minion expiration is when their timer is up while they're alive

So, they're different.

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Slayertip1 wrote:

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Dhanvanthri wrote:

Does minion expiry = minion death though? That seems like a limited way in which you could proc VMS with it... Especially if you can get the rythmn going, it might be a really cool way to do it. Assuming you can heal off of the leech effectively.

Minion death is when the minions take damage until they die, even one shots and stuff

Minion expiration is when their timer is up while they're alive

So, they're different.

Errrrr. And you are making build for others?...

Minions die at the end of their time. How do you think this works? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN2fDakJaH4

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Actkqk wrote:

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Slayertip1 wrote:

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Dhanvanthri wrote:

Does minion expiry = minion death though? That seems like a limited way in which you could proc VMS with it... Especially if you can get the rythmn going, it might be a really cool way to do it. Assuming you can heal off of the leech effectively.

Minion death is when the minions take damage until they die, even one shots and stuff

Minion expiration is when their timer is up while they're alive

So, they're different.

Errrrr. And you are making build for others?...

Minions die at the end of their time. How do you think this works? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN2fDakJaH4

well, you learn something every day

Also, not many people want summoner builds these days :/ its mostly casters of sorts nowadays xD also, hardly anyone wants builds with that certain unique :P its a dead unique :P

If you're doing cast-on-crit, I suppose you could do a "poor-man's Scold's" by adding in Summon Skeletons with Heartbound Loop and using those jewels that reduce skeleton duration down to 0.


I really wish GGG would add more ways to self-proc CwDT.

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If you're doing cast-on-crit, I suppose you could do a "poor-man's Scold's" by adding in Summon Skeletons with Heartbound Loop and using those jewels that reduce skeleton duration down to 0.


I really wish GGG would add more ways to self-proc CwDT.

This is what I needed to hear, what jewels are these? I really want to try this :D

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Dhanvanthri wrote:

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If you're doing cast-on-crit, I suppose you could do a "poor-man's Scold's" by adding in Summon Skeletons with Heartbound Loop and using those jewels that reduce skeleton duration down to 0.


I really wish GGG would add more ways to self-proc CwDT.

This is what I needed to hear, what jewels are these? I really want to try this :D

Army of Bones

You want 99% reduced duration, not 100%.
At 99%, they summon and then die immediately afteward, then Heartbound Loop hurts you.
At 100%, they don't even show up so you don't take damage.

Probably want to combine this build with the "healer" build which uses NA + Maligaro's Lens to heal allies on minion death.