[2.1 Talisman] **Updating** Blade Vortex - Scion Build

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EternalAeon wrote:

Is getting Herald of Ash a good idea?

Herald of Ashe is amazing for blade vortex, as well as added fire and hatred. They all add on top of the physical instead of converting like physical to lightning

Ok, having played this build for some time now, I will need to rework the tree a bit. Apart from needing to avoid reflect mobs like the plague, Act 3/4 Merciless (much more the latter) is proving difficult without stacks of health.

Bandits I went Oak, All, <depends on curse aura you use>.

Unfortunately stacking pure damage Auras (Ash/Hatred) seems like an easy RIP without the right gear. Additionally, they don't appear to add a large enough increase at the moment to justify them over something else more defensive. As such, until you have the right gear, go Blasphemy (1 or 2) with Arctic Armor.

Remember, most of your damage will be BV, and you need to survive semi-stationary to have enough stacks to rinse through packs. Vaal Cyclone with fortify + faster attacks is great for dry lake farming as well.

I will continue to post as I go. It's an interesting skill, I'd like to see what's required to rinse maps without going even tankier than I have.

EDIT: with 15% damage effectiveness on the spell, how much does ash/hatred add on in reality?

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13elial wrote:

EDIT: with 15% damage effectiveness on the spell, how much does ash/hatred add on in reality?

Pretty sure damage effectiveness only applies to things like Added Cold/Lightning/Chaos Damage (x-x damage), not Added Fire Damage/Hatred (% damage).

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Pretty sure damage effectiveness only applies to things like Added Cold/Lightning/Chaos Damage (x-x damage), not Added Fire Damage/Hatred (% damage).

I really wasn't sure. Does anyone know how elemental damage applies from supports? Specifically between Added Fire and Convert Phys to Lightning? I suspect Phys is converted to lightning before the Added Fire adds damage so it's an either/or, not both.

Unfortunately this build causes massive lag for me when speed farming and is therefore unplayable at a reasonable speed (Break-neck clearing). Therefore testing this past 70 is going to be dicey. However, Arctic Armor/Ash/Blas+Warlords mark with Sybils and CwDT firestorm+blade fall gives massive healing/sustain. Seems pretty stable, if only it could be tested further...

Could be Cybil's Paw an Option for a weapon? With all that on hit life and Cast Speed, it would fit to this. What u think?

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NeonM3ntos wrote:

Could be Cybil's Paw an Option for a weapon? With all that on hit life and Cast Speed, it would fit to this. What u think?

It is a amazing option if you go a block build like the one I am doing. Wont hijack thread but you will see it in the Scion forums.

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dbum wrote:

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NeonM3ntos wrote:

Could be Cybil's Paw an Option for a weapon? With all that on hit life and Cast Speed, it would fit to this. What u think?

It is a amazing option if you go a block build like the one I am doing. Wont hijack thread but you will see it in the Scion forums.

Yeah so I could acually go like the Block Incinerate Scion. The gear :

- Weapon: Cybil's Paw. BiS, for the reasons explained in the previous section.
- Shield: Rathpith Globe. BiS, nice spell block and damage boost, it gives a good amount of life and ES too.
- Amulet: Stone of Lazhwar. BiS, spell block and cast speed.
- Boots: Rainbowstride. Not BiS, when you get enough base block to cap spell block just with Lazhwar/Rathpit, this boots will be obsolete, and you can change them for good rare ones.
- Helm: Rare helm with Life and Resists, preferrably ES base with 150+ ES
- Rings: Rare rings with life/es and resists, any trash ring with some life and resists will do the trick, cast speed is a bonus, the expensive option is to craft max ES% from Elreon with a good 70+ life ring.
- Belt: Rare belt with life/es and resists.
- Gloves: Rare gloves with life and resists, personally I use armor/ev gloves, because is Beta and needed a cheap item for the Whirling blade colors (2R2G)
- Chest: Rare chest with HP and ES, 5L recommended, 6L not necessary.

Link : https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1291120

Only that u go like Blade Vortex for ur Main spell.
So the gear would fit perfectly to this Build only that u go in Block and Energy Shield.


So i can use the Skill Tree what 13elial is using?

I am using a lot from the block/incin build at the minute. I don't have ratpith, or much currency as I haven't been able to play much this last week.

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So i can use the Skill Tree what 13elial is using?

I will update the tree now, as i've added much more health.

NOTE: I will rework my entire original post to explain what I am using. It has changed a lot due to BV being different to how I expected to play it.

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I am using a lot from the block/incin build at the minute. I don't have ratpith, or much currency as I haven't been able to play much this last week.

But Ratpith would be a perfect Shield? I saw in the Endgame tree from 13elial he goes in Shield Increase so it would fit good.
What u think?