will essence drain's DOT be affected by projectile damage?

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Zed_ wrote:

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Shppy wrote:

Frankly, i actually hate that some DoTs can scale on projectile damage... it's what makes puncture entire orders of magnitude better for bows than melees could ever hope to get

It would only be fair if generic melee (physical) modifiers applied the same way but for some reason this is not the case.

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raics wrote:

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Zed_ wrote:

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Shppy wrote:

Frankly, i actually hate that some DoTs can scale on projectile damage... it's what makes puncture entire orders of magnitude better for bows than melees could ever hope to get

It would only be fair if generic melee (physical) modifiers applied the same way but for some reason this is not the case.

Right, there are a few 'melee physical damage' nodes on the tree and you'd think they should be working on physical DoTs inflicted by melee attacks. However, the trouble is 'melee' implies 'attack', there are no melee hits in the game that don't do attack damage (at least not on player side). On the other hand, a projectile can be pretty much anything.

I suppose it will all be sorted out if we ever get a melee skill that uses cast speed bonuses on weapon base and does spell damage, something like Magic Coup / Archangel Wrath / Spectral Hand trio in Sacred 2.

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Shppy wrote:

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I suggested something caster/attack hybrid like that a while ago (although without any cast speed influence); an active melee attack, very basic, that would cause linked spells to cast on hit (with a nearly-instant cooldown, melee splash wouldn't cause multiple casts, but multistrike or just high attack speed would cause a cast with each swing that connects).

The spell would deal 'more' damage when used with 2handers (something like 70%), and is basically an attempt to make a non-cancerous version of CoC and a useful version of CoMK, but otherwise I can't remember all the details; i'd probably have to flesh it out a bit to make sure it's not just another mechanic that favors attack speed over damage per hit (maybe make the spell deal 'less' damage inherently but scale on the various 'increased physical attack damage' mechs that the user's attack is boosted by.

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Alex_Lied wrote:

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Shppy wrote:

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I suggested something caster/attack hybrid like that a while ago (although without any cast speed influence); an active melee attack, very basic, that would cause linked spells to cast on hit (with a nearly-instant cooldown, melee splash wouldn't cause multiple casts, but multistrike or just high attack speed would cause a cast with each swing that connects).

The spell would deal 'more' damage when used with 2handers (something like 70%), and is basically an attempt to make a non-cancerous version of CoC and a useful version of CoMK, but otherwise I can't remember all the details; i'd probably have to flesh it out a bit to make sure it's not just another mechanic that favors attack speed over damage per hit (maybe make the spell deal 'less' damage inherently but scale on the various 'increased physical attack damage' mechs that the user's attack is boosted by.

Sorry, but that would be just a CoC without the need to crit. You would need to give it some almost insane drawback to balace that one.