double cast support gem

tags: spell, cast.
linked spells cast two separate casts at the same time, the second cast does not cost mana (same as echo).
40% less base damage.
10% less cast speed at level 1, no reduction at 20.
mana multiplier is 160%


reason to exist; to smooth out ailment builds.

also, 20% more damage isn't a particularly strong or weak effect.
when used with spell echo, you effectively get 4 casts for the cost of one, at 54% per cast, and would have a net multiplier of 2.24, so both together would only really be useful in a few fringe cases, and even then, would only be useful for themes (covered areas in sparks, or arcs, absurdly quick stacks of incinerate).

What's the difference between this and Spell Echo? Am I missing something something incredibly obvious here?

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mynameisonlyforthegods wrote:

What's the difference between this and Spell Echo? Am I missing something something incredibly obvious here?

What's the point of more Weapon damage on Full Life when there is more Weapon damage?
Because you can use both but you can't use one two times (and the first one has a lower mana multiplier).

Besides casting both at the same time means you are finished casting faster which can be handy when you want to evade an incoming attack. As a disadvantage the DPS is a lot lower than the one SE would give.

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SuperMotte wrote:

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mynameisonlyforthegods wrote:

What's the difference between this and Spell Echo? Am I missing something something incredibly obvious here?

What's the point of more Weapon damage on Full Life when there is more Weapon damage?
Because you can use both but you can't use one two times (and the first one has a lower mana multiplier).

Besides casting both at the same time means you are finished casting faster which can be handy when you want to evade an incoming attack. As a disadvantage the DPS is a lot lower than the one SE would give.

perfectly explained, thanks, and well done.

also, as i tried to be really clear on, double cast can have one of teh two casts crit, whereas with spell echo, either both crit or neither crit.

What we really need is a TWINCAST support, so I can Incinerate my foes while also channeling a Flameblast onto them.

-1 NO.

Like we not have enough spell spamming already....

I rather have a support gem that add % more damage support gem than casting twice.

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-1 NO.

Like we not have enough spell spamming already....

I rather have a support gem that add % more damage support gem than casting twice.

Have to disagree there. I rather not have a % more damage support gem. % more damage support gem just leads to more Cast on Critical Strike abuse. It does not help self casters at all.

This skill actually would make self cast more lucrative. But that said, I'm not sure if I support it or not.