Shadow using Quarterstaff is viable?
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I am pretty new in this game and i have a bad habit of not follow standards. I guess i know what is the normal way of build a shadow, but i saw all those str nodes on the right path and i wondered why not blend STR + High HP pool + High Defense + High Res + Quarterstaff (fancy, good damage, interesting skills) instead go regular...
Well, my character is only lvl 23 (Hardcore) and his biggest achievement so far was soloing kill Oak at lvl 21. Of course hes well equiped and i had to pass by several trials and errors before find a way to kill him safely, but its a conquer since most people decide not fight him. I will show how is going my passive tree, and i need some serious advices and suggestions. Also i know that there are some wrong nodes there, witch will be fixed in future when i have some regret stones.
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAAMwZiiHANdY_J0PSRQpMsVM1YENs9m1sbj1uqnq4guSKr5ARm7WzDsM6ykrLgs5I_5M=
Is there anybody else who is trying something similar? Mind to show me your passive tree? Last edited by lazyliquid#3346 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:29:52 PM
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Yah its unique but I feel like you could of just gone templar and had your build idea done already.
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I wanted to follow up on this with my theory of the build you are attempting.
High HP, evasion, block. All your damage node will come from Staff trees but with all the hp I picked up it should be fairly impressive. ~ Edit forgot to link build doh http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAAMwCcQSzFE0WbxmFGjIaOBpsHRQhwCSqKQcpTzNANDE2ezbpOtg64TwtPydDeUPSRY5KLkz_UFBRYFM1VElVxlhjWK5bWV6fXz9gQ2MLZp5s9m1sbj1uqnK7d2J6uHy7guSEY4jxiq-Mz49GkBGQVZMHlwGboZu1n7SiAKZXp4SnpaloqZWuk69sr3OzDrUEtz63crlDud29OcAawC7DOsQVxPbFisauxtjJZ8pKy0HPZdDQ0TXUj9WL2aLjauQi5PHnUudj7BnsOO1E7w7wH_Iv8kX2SPfX-tL-Cv-T Last edited by F3ral0ne#5601 on Feb 14, 2013, 1:49:41 PM
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" Do staves count as shield in terms of passive skills? Is that why you took Shield Mastery? EDIT: That doesn't make much sense to me since there are also skills like Battle Staff Training. Last edited by Urpo#5143 on Feb 14, 2013, 2:09:50 PM
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" No I invested those points into that tree over on the left side because it gives 12% of your block chance to block spells. |
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I think this build is bad... The reason being is that you chose to be a shadow but get nothing from their tree instead you avoided all of it even the 12% attack speed node that was right there for the taking. IMO you should simply go templar or marauder as it saves points while at the same time giving you the build you wanted.
Heres a example of a Templar staff user that has crit. Heres a Marauder staff build, Heres my go at a staff shadow, I would like to point out that all builds have EB and inner force and that it's just how I was trying to make a staff templar earlier so these types of builds just popped right into my mind. Anyway what I'm trying to say about your build and already did is that you should change your build to either use the shadow tree somehow or just be a templar or marauder as with your current build it would simply save points. Last edited by topler#4652 on Feb 14, 2013, 7:22:01 PM
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@F3ral0ne
I really liked your suggestion build, it helped me to clarify some directions. I just not agree with the critical hit nodes, since the Qstaff is not a favored weapon for criticals. Instead, i think ill swap these crit nodes for some more general 2h melee damage or attack speed... Also, about the block bonus on the Qstaff, i need to know if the bonus on this weapon + block nodes works like if it would be a normal shield. Lastly, im not sure that i will invest on evasion. Since most nodes are coming fom STR instead DEX, my build never will be proficient in evasion. So i was thinking on invest in AR+HP and Res a lot to survive. Also, i heard that some bosses ignores evasion... so i dont know... If i go for evasion, do you suggest i should get the Iron Reflexes keystone? |
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Sorry for the double post. Im here again to show comparassions of F3ral0ne and topler.
F3ral0ne´s suggestion:
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http://poe.sitedyno.com/skill_tree/compute/d84b727d3a96016f1f25917dec592f1615433efb
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBAMwCcQSzFE0WbxmFGjIaOBpsHRQhwCSqKQcpTzNANDE2ezbpOtg64TwtPydDeUPSRY5KLkz_UFBRYFM1VElVxlhjWK5bWV6fXz9gQ2MLZp5s9m1sbj1uqnK7d2J6uHy7guSEY4jxiq-Mz49GkBGQVZMHlwGboZu1n7SiAKZXp4SnpaloqZWuk69sr3OzDrUEtz63crlDud29OcAawC7DOsQVxPbFisauxtjJZ8pKy0HPZdDQ0TXUj9WL2aLjauQi5PHnUudj7BnsOO1E7w7wH_Iv8kX2SPfX-tL-Cv-T Class: Shadow Skill points used: 111 +284 to Strength +142 to Dexterity +162 to Intelligence +39% to Cold Resistance +54% to Fire Resistance +54% to Lightning Resistance 0% increased Cold Damage 0% increased Fire Damage 0% increased Lightning Damage 2.9% of Life Regenerated per Second 251% increased maximum Life 7% additional Shield Block Chance 12% of Block Chance applied to Spells 111% increased Physical Damage with Staves 4% increased Attack Speed with Staves 27% increased Stun Duration with Staves on enemies 24% increased Accuracy Rating with Staves 19% additional Block Chance With Staves 20% increased Defences from equipped Shield You take 30% reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes 70% increased Global Critical Strike Chance while wielding a Staff 40% increased Global Critical Strike Multiplier while wielding a Staff 10% reduced Mana Cost of Skills 12% increased Attack Speed +60 to maximum Life 12% increased Physical Damage with Two Handed Melee Weapons Keystones: none topler´s suggestion:
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http://poe.sitedyno.com/skill_tree/compute/cb69af31a16e28daabdb9bdb0a09f58d9393429a
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBAP0CcQSzDH0OSA_EEH8RLxGWFE0UsBZvFvkXUBhdGdcaOB0UIcAkPCaVJ6kyiTbpOtg7fElRTC1N2FBCVJFVS1XGV-JYrlptWqZbWWZPZp5moG1sbXtwUnflf8aBSYIegziIOIhrjDaMdo9GkFWboZ2KnaOftKIAoi6io6cIpzSnXKeEqWismLI4sw61SLb3uJO4ysAawFHB88aez2XQ0NsL3MfjauOE7DjvfPAf8Xbz6vfX-tL7i_yr_5M= Class: Shadow Skill points used: 94 +154 to Strength +102 to Dexterity +282 to Intelligence +20% to Cold Resistance +20% to Fire Resistance +20% to Lightning Resistance 0% increased Cold Damage 0% increased Fire Damage 0% increased Lightning Damage 1% of Life Regenerated per Second 168% increased maximum Life 30% increased Effect of Buffs on You 100% increased Critical Strike Multiplier 18% increased Evasion Rating 46% increased maximum Energy Shield 10% increased Energy Shield Cooldown Recovery 95% increased Critical Strike Chance with Two Handed Melee Weapons 10% increased Accuracy Rating 30% increased Lightning Damage with Weapons 50% increased Elemental Damage with Weapons 28% increased Armour 8% increased Physical Damage with Staves 2% increased Attack Speed with Staves 70% increased Global Critical Strike Chance while wielding a Staff 40% increased Global Critical Strike Multiplier while wielding a Staff 230% increased Critical Strike Chance 7% increased Stun Duration with Staves on enemies +50 to maximum Life 2% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched back as Mana 12% increased Physical Damage with Two Handed Melee Weapons 18% increased Attack Speed 12% increased Radius of Area Skills 8% increased Area Damage +16% to Chaos Resistance Knocks Back enemies if you get a Critical Strike with a Staff Keystones: Converts all Energy Shield to Mana IMHO... if the intention is build a shadow with melee aproach, Feral0ne´s build is miles away superior. |
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Reason I went evasion was purely for show. A good hybrid armor would work great here to benefit the str/dex. I am quickly learning evasion/armor suck and try to stack as much hp as possible.
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Ok so did some more tweaks you are right about the critical strike stuff. So I deiced the blocking of spells was not as important with resistances and hp stacking. To keep in my theme of evasion armor I took all those points and went to Iron Reflexes and a big hp pool I think I might of come out stronger for this. Tell me what ya think.
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAAMwCcQSzDq0UTRUgGNsZhRo4GmwhwCSLJKopBylPKaUqTSzpM0A0MTZ7Nuk62DrhPC09Dz8nQ3lDnEPSRY5KLkp9UFBTNVRJWGNbr16fXz9gQ2MLZ6BsFmz2bWxuPW6qcrt3Ynq4fLuC5IPbhGOHdojxiq-Mz5ARkFWTB5cBm7WiAKZXp4SnpalorpOvc7MOtQS3PrdyuUO53b05wC7DOsQVxPbFisauxtjJZ8pKy0HOcdE11I_Vi9mi3Q3jauQi5PHnUudj7BnsOO1E7w7wH_Iv8kX2SPxL_MX-Cv-T |
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