[SUGGESTION] Auction House + Special AH Currency (from vendors) - idea

Hello.

Because current trade is obsolete and requires alot of hours to be logged in, so players who play rarely can almost forget about trading and I 100% agree with that.

Because of how trade works I have never traded and never will, decided to play the path of self-founding. I am accumulating currency and probably won't use them at all until AH is created.

My idea of AH is: Acution House + Special AH Currency, obtained from vendoring all possible items:

Auction House:
- UI like a typical AH
- buyout option,
- 10% fee of the selling price is taken from the price when item is purchased - optional, research needed
- you can sell everything, even exalts
- you can only buy with AH Currency
- has slighty more advanced search than poe.trade (doable)
- has a limit of selling max 20 items at the same time per one account
- has a limit of bidding on max 10 items at the same time per one account
- additional AH slots can be purchased, just like additional Stash Tabs

Auction House Currency - Coins/Ducats/You name it :
- obrained only from vendoring items, gems, orbs,
- you can use the AH Currency to purhase any orb, even exalts, from the AH Currency vendor
(thanks to that, current item prices will transer to AH :) and we get rid of hyperinflation)
- current vendors will work as for now
- a special vendor will appear in the Highgate, only he/she/it will pay with AH Currency for items you sell to him/her/it
- unknown ratio per item for now, it only requires proper research, PoE devs can do it :)
- can or can not be traded outside of the AH is up to developers, research will give the proper answer

Pros:
- bad items won't appear on the AH, because thier prices will be simillar to vendor's offers, it will be easy to find out by just searching for the items
- good items will surely have much higher prices than vendor, so they will sell

The only thing left to think about, is AH Currency sink, but:

- you can use the AH Currency to purhase any orb, even exalts, from the AH Currency vendor

Thanks to that, current item prices will transer to AH :) and we get rid of hyperinflation

Nice post


But no.

Many of us like the trading as it is and the interaction with other players. An auction house takes that away and you take the core away from Poe. Not to mention it would not at anything I can not do currently. If you can not than it says more about you than needing an ah

In. 3 years time you managed 1 character to 68. You have not even played the game properly ....
Glad GGG does not change the game on people like you, no,offensive, just stating the obvious

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roetetoet wrote:

You have not even played the game properly ....
Glad GGG does not change the game on people like you, no,offensive, just stating the obvious

While I've been known to call people out myself for making comments on things they know nothing about due to their level, that's in relation to high level maps... "haven't played the game properly" and "no offense" don't really gel. People should play how they like, and anyone can trade as long as they reach the minimum level. Should I now sniff at your level 90, and in turn have a level 100 sniff at my poor lowly level 95, for my bad 'skillz'?

A well-designed auction house need not remove the 'interaction' of trading. But yada yada D3 yada yada. I fully expect if GGG does implement an AH, there will be an outcry of a million (well, probably more like 72) souls yelling 'dey took our jawbs !!'

While I am not strongly oppose a more useful trade system idea in general, introducing Game Gold is a very very bad idea.
And being able to buy some of the most popular and useful currencies (Divine, Exalted etc.) from the vendors with the game gold is even worse.

High-end orb trade will guarantee infinite amount of -for example- Exalted Orbs, as long as you have gold.
This will lead to gold farms and RMT sites in no time. Because all you need to do is to play the game all the time and sell stuff to vendors to collect gold without worrying about if something good will drop or not.

If there has to be a trade house, here are some of my ideas:

1) It must be b/o only.

2) It must be done with current currencies and items without introducing any other currency.

3) It must involve a "Trade Tab" which you put your item, set your price and post. You cannot pull the item from trade tab for 24 hours.

4) The trade is done automatically. System will give your item to the buyer, and put currencies in your stash (remove-only tabs if you don't have any space)

5) And of course, you cannot equip/use your item while it is in the trade tab.

6) After 24 hours, you can take the item out of the tab, but this will result the sale to be cancelled. If you want to put it on sale again, there will be a new 24 hours mandatory period.

Again, I don't think a new trade system is urgently needed.

Just my 2 Yens...

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Slaughtererr wrote:

Because current trade is obsolete and requires alot of hours to be logged in, so players who play rarely can almost forget about trading and I 100% agree with that.

Good point.

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BurakUeda wrote:

While I am not strongly oppose a more useful trade system idea in general, introducing Game Gold is a very very bad idea.

But we have "Game Gold". Not one but many kinds of "Game Gold". It's only harder to see and use it.

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roetetoet wrote:

Many of us like the trading as it is and the interaction with other players.

i know noone who likes or even enjoys the trading system as it is now.

its more like a necessary evil for those who want to run certain builds. you have to make orbs to then spend them.

and the interaction with other players ... well ... if you mean "hi, i would like to buy blabla" which you copy from poe.trade and the t4t afterwards. ye what the hell of an interaction.
on the other hand when you whisper "online" players, they are NOT online or afk or ignore you right away. nice interaction yes.

granted there are SOME nice guys you can haggle with even shittalk a bit. but thats like 1/100.

i'm doing master rotations every day so i'd say i have more interaction with others than a normal trader. i don't realy enjoy it. sometimes you encounter nice ppl but most of times it's like "do what you have to do as fast as possible with as less talk as necessary".

i usually like trading a lot.
made lots of money in wow and eve-online.
D3 was bad cause of the itemization. you had to have the best items to progress everything else was trash. never found a gg item and the rest only sold for pennies.

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davidnn5 wrote:

A well-designed auction house need not remove the 'interaction' of trading. But yada yada D3 yada yada. I fully expect if GGG does implement an AH, there will be an outcry of a million (well, probably more like 72) souls yelling 'dey took our jawbs !!'

Hilarious because it's true...

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roetetoet wrote:

Many of us like the trading as it is and the interaction with other players.

Spamming the trade chat, cluttering the boards with WTB/WTS parties or pm'ing someone with 'Hi, I want to buy your X for 1 chaos" cookie cutter messages is not meaningful interaction, and that's how 99.99% of the trading in this game is conducted.

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BurakUeda wrote:

This will lead to gold farms and RMT sites in no time. Because all you need to do is to play the game all the time and sell stuff to vendors to collect gold without worrying about if something good will drop or not.

While I think the current currency system is fine and we don't need any sort of 'gold', this is a moot point. RMT and bottign already exist and are prevalent, because the way valuable items and currency enters the economy is anyway directly or indirectly through farming. Adding 'gold' (don't see the point within the current system except for needlessly complicating things) won't change that in any significant way.

I'm all in for a proper in-game trading system though (AH or not, but the current one sucks).

You won't have any chance to see any improvements on trades in this game.
Really just forgot about them it will just not happen GGG don't give a shit about suggestions on this subject.

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roetetoet wrote:

In. 3 years time you managed 1 character to 68. You have not even played the game properly ....
Glad GGG does not change the game on people like you, no,offensive, just stating the obvious

I started playing with the Awakening Expansion.
For now I have:
40.5 hrs last two weeks / 139.4 hrs on record - All Warbands
I play through Steam. So total 139,4 hours since the Awakening.
I did some races, but it feels like waste of time, so I resigned doing them.
I'am playing when I feel like I want and have time.
I have a few characters, deleted one 63 because I made up a bad tree and I don't have time to farm/trade regrets, AH would make it easier.

Before that I played a little but didn't like the game.
Joined:
31 december 2012
I made an account that day, I was interested but oh well, game was still uncomplete for my needs. Now its closer to completion. The Awakening made it more enjoable, but still the game lacks a few quality-of-life systems like the AH idea I proposed.

I just play the way I want, not rushing to maps and exalt crafting, because that doesn't give me any form of fun. Yellow items also don't give me fun, only uniques are the items I wanna find and wear. My current Cyclone Duelist (although I still use Cleave, because it's more fun to me, so Cleave Duelist) has many uniques and it's a walking satisfaction for me :)