Support gems bug out aura totems
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Whenever you create a totem with increased duration or increased area of effect, it will fail to cast the aura.
As far as I can see, this will be descriptive enough. https://youtu.be/Dt9GwmOWoqo
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A totem can't reserve more than 100 of its mana any more than you can.
Spell totem mana multiplier is 200%, so a 50% aura uses 100% of the totem's mana. Guild Leader The Amazon Basin <BASIN> Play Nice and Show Some Class www.theamazonbasin.com Last edited by mark1030#3643 on Aug 8, 2015, 8:12:52 PM
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True, if you use mana.
but, the totem uses it's own mana to cast i guess https://youtu.be/Dt9GwmOWoqo Last edited by Teriderol#4868 on Aug 9, 2015, 2:46:46 AM
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The totem does use mana. Inside the box is where the game is working as intended.
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Well, then I will add that generosity doesn't work either...
https://youtu.be/Dt9GwmOWoqo
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From what I've seen auras will not cast on a totem because it requires you to cast it's mana cost, for instance.
Haste is 50%, a totem makes that mana cost 100% any other modifiers will make it too much mana for you to cast. [IE you cant cast a spell that cost 110% of your mana pool....since you only have 100%] The best thing you can do is use the -60% mana cost to totems with gems in it jewel. Tested just now, Wrath+Spell totem =100% reserve Before spell totem it costs 50% mana to cast [40% for me.] when I add spell totem to it, it negates my % since it's not me casting it, it's the totem causing it to cost 100% mana instead of 80%. tested with clarity, cost me 196 mana, when cast through spell totem costs 4xx mana, with increased duration [which does work] it costs 6xx mana. Wrath with increased D will not work as it costs 130% of the mana I have [which is impossible.] However when I tested this in the beta with the corrupted totem jewel I could cast multiple aura totems for like ~8% of my mana roughly. Generosity does not work. I should also add increased duration does work. ![]() Last edited by Zackro#4672 on Aug 9, 2015, 9:16:30 PM
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well, thank you for the clarification.
HOWEVER When you put EB in the equation, you are able to cast totems of over 100% mana, which completely voids your argument, leading me back to the idea that totems have an own mana pool. Thanks again for your thourough explanation and the double check of other support gems on clarity, even though it was inside the box. Edit: So, to clarify: - spell totem + haste = works - spell totem + haste + generosity = generosity does not work, skill will not be tagged by it - spell totem + haste + increased duration = totem placeable, will detract a cost of 130%*your mana pool, totem will not cast aura - spell totem + haste + increased area = totem placeable, will detract a cost of 140%*your mana pool, totem will not cast aura - spell totem + haste + reduced mana = totem placeable with cost respective to reduced mana gem, aura projected - spell totem + haste + reduced mana + increased area = totem placeable with mana cost of 140*respective reduced mana gem, aura not projected - spell totem + haste + enlighten = unable to test due to financial reasons. - spell totem + haste + enlighten + (increased area/duration) = unable to test due to financial reasons https://youtu.be/Dt9GwmOWoqo Last edited by Teriderol#4868 on Aug 10, 2015, 9:01:40 AM
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" They do indeed. That's what Mark said already. |
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I believe the argument is still valid that a totem may have 10,000-1,000,000-1,000,000,000 mana etc but it can only reserve it's own 100% total.
I've yet to this point seen anyone accurately cast a 140%+ mana cost aura totem that did the aura. Last edited by Zackro#4672 on Aug 10, 2015, 1:13:01 PM
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It appears that Totems have a 130% mana max usage?
When I use discipline with Increased AoE and Conc with spell totem [base cost of disc is 24% for me.] base cost is 121% mana cost. It casts with increased area+conc affect on it. However if I do hatred which at the end of the modifiers is a 173% it does not cast it. First test conclusions: Leads me to believe that anything over the 130% mana threshold is "too much" mana for the totem to cast, I'll need to do more testing but I tested 138%, 141%, 135%, 160% and a strew of others between 150-170 with the totem refusing to cast the spell, the MOMENT it hit below 130 it casts it. Further Testing: ^Scratch all of that. Disciple can cast up to 125% mana cost but hatred for some ungodly reason can't cast at 122%. Leads me to believe that there is 100% a bug going on as one aura costing the same mana should still be cast. Things I did not get to test with: Reduced mana, I picked up all the reduce mana nodes along the tree [not reserved]. Tested with purity of elements mixing discipline out as well. Works the same as discipline, not sure why hatred costing the same mana isn't working....really lost as it's mana cost is 122% and is refusing to cast the aura unlike Discipline/Purity that'll cast at 120-125% with no problem. Things I've learned: Base 35% mana reserved auras will cast the aura up to 125% mana reserve [I have not tested 126-129 thoroughly enough to say 100% for sure it'll still cast at those levels] at 130%+ It refused to cast the aura. Base 50% Auras seemed to refuse to cast the aura even at 122% reserve unlike the 35% counterpart, this is a strange behavior considering all mana costs are equal, it required me dropping hatred to 110% before it began casting. Not sure why it's acting this way. Last edited by Zackro#4672 on Aug 10, 2015, 1:19:49 PM
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