[2.0] BUG. Shavs + EB

Hi there, been theorizing a build, life based, with EB for mana, and using a Shavronne's wrapping for redirect Chaos damage to my ES (my mana). The thing is, Chaos Damage is taking my life instead. Which sucks cuz, "chaos damage does not bypass energy shield".

I would like a dev word on this, is it intended? is it a bug? cuz the way that this mod is written, it should act like a 100% MoM for Chaos Damage. Should take all my ES first, then start taking my life.
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Of course it is. Shav's does not redirect Chaos Damage to Energy Shield, it merely allows ES to function normally (that's why the modifier says "does not bypass" rather than "is absorbed by"). However, if there is no ES in the first place, because you moved it to cover your Mana instead, it doesn't matter.

Your ES protects your Mana now. It doesn't protect your Life. That's what Eldritch Battery does.
Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Jul 20, 2015, 9:51:49 AM
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Vipermagi wrote:
Of course it is. Shav's does not redirect Chaos Damage to Energy Shield, it merely allows ES to function normally (that's why the modifier says "does not bypass" rather than "is absorbed by"). However, if there is no ES in the first place, because you moved it to cover your Mana instead, it doesn't matter.

Your ES protects your Mana now. It doesn't protect your Life. That's what Eldritch Battery does.


You are wrong, my ES moved, but it is still there, therefore when hit by chaos damage, it should take my ES first. The way it works rigth now, i have shav equipped, i have ES and Chaos damage is BYPASSING it.

Edit: tested it on desecrated ground, didnt trigger mom, didnt use shavs "chaos dmg does not bypass ES" mod. Mb i am wrong and desecrated ground is not chaos damage?.
Last edited by Delihorda#4574 on Jul 20, 2015, 10:01:22 AM
Yes, it's still there - over your Mana.

You take Chaos Damage. This goes to your Life, because you have no ES covering your Life.
Mind over Matter redirects 30% of Damage taken to Life to your Mana instead.
You have ES covering your Mana, and Shav's Wrappings allows ES to soak Chaos Damage.
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Vipermagi wrote:
Yes, it's still there - over your Mana.

You take Chaos Damage. This goes to your Life, because you have no ES covering your Life.
Mind over Matter redirects 30% of Damage taken to Life to your Mana instead.
You have ES covering your Mana, and Shav's Wrappings allows ES to soak Chaos Damage.




And in what part of the Shavs you read "your ES should be covering your life" ?. Cause i cant find it.
All other damage besides Chaos Damage also "does not bypass ES". How much of all the other damage you take comes from your Es when you have EB?

You are reading "does not bypass energy shield" as "hits energy shield". You want shavs to essentially give you mind over matter, which would be broken.
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mark1030 wrote:
All other damage besides Chaos Damage also "does not bypass ES". How much of all the other damage you take comes from your Es when you have EB?

You are reading "does not bypass energy shield" as "hits energy shield". You want shavs to essentially give you mind over matter, which would be broken.


Right now all damage is bypassing my ES, except for the part converted from MoM. I m just saying, i thought about this cool synergy and was surprised it didnt work, cuz of the wording in shavs. The whole idea of path of exile is finding new ways of "breaking the game", finding sinergies, combinations of skills, gear, i dunno , anything basically. Why is this not the case? why even when it should be is not possible? Cuz its op? thats not the point. If its op then nerf it. The point here is about the sinergy not working when it should be. If you have nothing interesting to add, keep the cry for yourself.
Being OP is not why it doesn't work.

It doesn't work because you are trying to do something that makes absolutely no sense. Like I said, all your other damage "does not bypass ES" as well. Why do you think making chaos damage behave like physical, fire, cold, and lightning damage change the way the game treates energy shield or eldritch battery?

Get a unique with the mod "chaos damage taken from mana before life" and it'll work like you want.
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"Right now all damage is bypassing my ES"
That is not what "to bypass" means, at all. In order for your ES to be bypassed, it has to stand in the way first - and due to Eldritch Battery, it no longer sits between Damage and your Life pool. As such, Damage doesn't have to bypass your Energy Shield to hit your Life pool.

"The point here is about the sinergy not working when it should be."
No, the point is, this is working precisely as described.
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Vipermagi wrote:
"Right now all damage is bypassing my ES"
That is not what "to bypass" means, at all. In order for your ES to be bypassed, it has to stand in the way first - and due to Eldritch Battery, it no longer sits between Damage and your Life pool. As such, Damage doesn't have to bypass your Energy Shield to hit your Life pool.

"The point here is about the sinergy not working when it should be."
No, the point is, this is working precisely as described.


i would like a real answer from a dev , someone who knows what is he talking about.
You guys, just cant think outside of the box, are too used to think "shavs its mean to be an alternative for CI", but the game has changed, EB now works in diferent ways, and shavs should addapt to, cuz of the way its worded in the game.
Last edited by Delihorda#4574 on Jul 20, 2015, 11:45:29 AM

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