With POE 2.0 coming why not a new standard type server?

Let standard be legacy league. So many changes are coming it might as well be PoE 2. GGG has learned their lessons about making uniques that ruin balancing. Why not make a new standard? Those legacies screw with the economy and honestly game experience. Why not open up a new clean standard? It doesn't even have to be made the default server.

Don't get me wrong I understand COMPLETELY about the time and effort people put in to their account and characters on standard I played Everquest for 10 years anyone who has played Everquest knows the true meaning on character investment. People will see this as a threat to their work and it doesn't have to be. Standard/legacy should continue to be the games item dump server. it's not going to majorly deplete it's population it will still have racers and temp league characters and items dumped there and people will continue to play. Standard 2.0 would be a pure server unaffected by other leagues, races, temp servers.

To fully/partially experience this game and character possibilities you have to interact with the economy trading. Standard economy is riddled with inflation, bloated, and elements of Gentry have been starting to appear. I can imagine what it is like for a new people. It takes a lot of time and effort to break into that part of game and vast majority of casuals it is a pain the the ass.

Most people don't even party because their character trivializes the game making it unnecessary and a hassle. That is one of the strengths of temp league people where more social and partied for mutual security and advancement.

Again i'm not advocating to replace standard just a economically clean alternative not a dump league. Anyone else enjoy the temp league that was extended to 6 months?

Thoughts?
Last edited by shadowscout#1333 on Jun 26, 2015, 8:03:27 PM
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Thoughts are no. Plain and simple. There's perm leagues and temp leagues. Nice split up base currently.

Would you ask them to do the same again in a year when new standard becomes like old? A line has to be drawn.
You have a good point but missing mine. No legacies and not a item dump for other leagues. A pure game server. I know I focused a lot on the economy and that is because it's such a important part of rng multiplayer games. But again my main reasons for a fresh server is not a item dump and isolated.
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Last edited by shadowscout#1333 on Jun 26, 2015, 8:29:17 PM
And you are apparently missing his. Any league that goes on for an extended period of time ends up like standard is currently. This is regardless of whether or not leagues dump into them. The problem is that the league is permanent, people play it, and thus loot proliferates. The proliferation of loot leads to all of the problems standard currently has, and this new server would be much the same. Given enough time it would also suffer from the existence of legacies and just be another standard with all the same problems.

You have not addressed the problem with standard, you have simply shifted it. Perhaps what would be best for you is a longer term temp league.

Edit: If they were actually to add a new permanent league I would hope that it has something special about it such as a solo league, where the drops are based around solo play rather than group play.
Last edited by ghoulavenger#0583 on Jun 26, 2015, 8:39:51 PM
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ghoulavenger wrote:
And you are apparently missing his. Any league that goes on for an extended period of time ends up like standard is currently. This is regardless of whether or not leagues dump into them. The problem is that the league is permanent, people play it, and thus loot proliferates. The proliferation of loot leads to all of the problems standard currently has, and this new server would be much the same. Given enough time it would also suffer from the existence of legacies and just be another standard with all the same problems.

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No I understand his point about age effecting economy. That is a none issue and is expected. The broken legacies and poor party experience are what bother me the most.I conceded though that argument I can't beat even if my reasons for wanting this are diffident.



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ghoulavenger wrote:

Edit: If they were actually to add a new permanent league I would hope that it has something special about it such as a solo league, where the drops are based around solo play rather than group play.



Can you think of anything that would increase difficulty and encourage party play?
Last edited by shadowscout#1333 on Jun 26, 2015, 11:32:49 PM
Define difficulty. XD

Seriously though, one of my main gripes with this game for awhile isn't that grouping is more efficient (which it is), but to me that's fine. It's the insane MF boost that goes along with it. Even though it gets split among more people, the hardest part is getting "good" stuff to drop in the first place.

Back on topic, it's not so much that the economy would eventually just be like current standard, it obviously would, it's that it turns into this exact same thread reoccuring, which defeats the whole purpose.

If you want a league that lasts a long time, AND had a new economy, you're kinda screwed. Though I personally believe that current length of temp leagues is perfect. Even for the more casual crowd. It gives someone with minimal time investment the ability to get st least one character into high level endgame. Which is perfect.
Have you considered HC? The "economy" should be a little more stable there than in standard. Mainly because it's "self cleaning" to an extent. ie; someone dies, all the equipped gear (in a real HC game) goes bye-bye, but here on POE it goes to standard. But either way, it's gone from the "economy" of the server you're playing on. And isn't that what you want, a bit of a "self cleaning" "economy"?



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The reason for the quotations on the word economy; I find the term an oxymoron in reference to trading on games. What we have here, and on every game I've ever played, with trading involved, in no way, shape or form resembles an economy. It only represents a greed driven pricing system. Why do you think the Fed. Gov. of the USA has someone that can directly change the prime lending rate? Because without someone at the top pulling some strings, you end up with greed taking over, and people sitting on their money as a result! And absolutely no game developer I'm aware of has ever taken an ongoing active roll in pulling the strings to keep it stable.
making another standard league would be against why there is standard league,
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if you dont like standar economy, just play temporal leagues. I dont see the point of this TH
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